@jflory7 can I just pop by the Berlin Redhat office?

@jflory7 can I just pop by the Berlin Redhat office?

Good question! Would love to come by also in May

@sesivany should know

I got a wrong number so I can't call them

I've never been to Berlin office. It's tiny and it's just sales. So nothing interesting ?

ah, no actual work done there :p

BTW you can now vote for F24 supplemental wallpapers: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/ (note you need to have a FAS account and status of contributor to take a vote).

voting..

thanks for reminder!

And I recommend you vote for Aurora over Iceland and Prague Waterfront in Winter. Those are my horses in the race ?

Don't forget Winter Afternoon in Georgia and Wheelbarrow in Leaves! ?

https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/election/5/voted/

Method Not Allowed The method is not allowed for the requested URL.

I get that too

I spent 5 mins choosing

=(

I got my choices back by going back, but it doesn't seem like I can submit

I think you need to do it all over again to make it work.

=(((((

https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/None

pff

At least you can now make the right choice (Aurora over Iceland and Prague Waterfront in Winter) ?

something totally broken

I did correct choice

don't worry

The badge claim was also broken, but Patrick already fixed it.

I'm asking in #fedora-apps now on freenode

Method Not Allowed

=(

Seems like they're aware of it and are trying to debug it now.

ping me when it will work

The Nuancier is being deployed now, shouldn't be much longer now.

Okay, if you log out and log back in, should be fixed now.

@jflory7 sent you an email regarding commblog article on i18n testing :)

@jflory7 sent you an email regarding commblog article on i18n testing :)

Sorry for the slow response, should be good for tomorrow. :)

Telegram 3.8 is coming: - New design - New stickers panel - Bots 2.0 (the biggest update at bot platform since June 2015). #telegram #beta #updates

https://telegram.org/blog/bots-2-0

We're getting some badges 3D printed!

Cool ! ?

We're getting some badges 3D printed!

:o

There was a 8th hour of using GNOME on Wayland session instead of Xorg. Middle mouse button(primary buffer) working. Only sometimes there was problems with it. Also, in difference between Xorg and Wayland, when CPU is busy (for example, compiling something), you can feel that. GNOME Shell begin slowing down. Unless you renice it to -9.

Of course with a lot of obscene words about why he did it. ?

LOL! I love that! ?

Cool ! ?

I have a picture of them on my camera, I'll be sure to share it soon. :)

KDE3. And early GNOME 2, before GNOME devs started to think "users are idiots" way.

I strongly dislike Gnome 3. I wonder what does he uses. Just curiosity.

He is getting old. He just want to work and do not think about environment.

That's why I dislike Gnome 3, because I want to do my work without getting worried by the environment

That's why I dislike Gnome 3, because I want to do my work without getting worried by the environment

Then, if he do use GNOME 3, he does not worry about it.

That's why I dislike Gnome 3, because I want to do my work without getting worried by the environment

I think you are misunderstanding somethings. Linus does not loose time making customizations to the appearance of his gnome desktop, many devs tends to use wm (windows managers), because they spends a huge amount of time creating their configs/dotfiles, but only one time.

Gnome is pretty simple by design, I like it, but seems like gnome does not reach that stability in terms of everything is on the same place release after release or they remove the ability to customize stuff that were present in the las versions. I'm still missing the F3 function in nautilus that allowed you split Nautilus into 2 in the made the drag an drop more easy.

There tons of functions that depends on gnome extensions to make gnome a little bit usable, but guess what? Release after release some extensions stop working on new versions.

That's a waste of time

That's a waste of time

What?

I like a desktop that works right from start. Not making extra stuff to make it work.

I like a desktop that works right from start. Not making extra stuff to make it work.

+1, I still not understand why fedora's gnome does not come with gnome-tweak-tool by default.

Googling it!

Yes, in Google plus

+1, I still not understand why fedora's gnome does not come with gnome-tweak-tool by default.

It should.

But still prefer Cinnamon. It's simple, neat and beautiful.

https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/None

"Not found" ?

I have a picture of them on my camera, I'll be sure to share it soon. :)

Yes! Thank you!

I found the fatal flaw on Wayland session: gallium does not support vaapi on Wayland... ?

+1, I still not understand why fedora's gnome does not come with gnome-tweak-tool by default.

What? Well, I does not even remembered about it since I installed Fedora 24 with GNOME. I suspect, I does not need it at all, then.

What? Well, I does not even remembered about it since I installed Fedora 24 with GNOME. I suspect, I does not need it at all, then.

Looking forward to fc24

Looking forward to fc24

I do not think GNOME is bad. I guess your *problems* is just conflicts with GNOME viewings of things. For example, I do not need right after installation JUST CHANGE THAT THEME, FAST! I NEED TO CHANGE THE THEME! I NEED EXTENSIONS! NOW! I SAID NOW! I WANT DOCK! I WANT MY FONTS! I WANT TO CONFIGURE *EVERYTHING* NOW! JUST LET ME DO IT! SHIP GNOME-TWEAK-TOOL IN STANDARD INSTALLATION! I WANT TO CHANGE ALL KEYBOARD SETTINS, BECAUSE I WANT TO WORK IT MY WAY! THE STANDARD ICON THEME IS UGLY! CHANGE IT NOW! NOW APPS, I NEED CONFIGURE ALL OF THEM! I CAN NOT WORK UNTIL I CONFIGURE *EVERYTHING*!... And that sort of things...

What is *must have* in standard Workstation installation, I think, is gnome-terminal-nautilus. Everytime I need to install it myself, for that "Open Terminal" button. Which is very useful.

Every single persone have a list of *must have* list of things that may need on gnome. The problem is when this things are not built in gnome, or there's no way to enabled this *must have*

https://telegram.org/blog/share-preview

I do not think GNOME is bad. I guess your *problems* is just conflicts with GNOME viewings of things. For example, I do not need right after installation JUST CHANGE THAT THEME, FAST! I NEED TO CHANGE THE THEME! I NEED EXTENSIONS! NOW! I SAID NOW! I WANT DOCK! I WANT MY FONTS! I WANT TO CONFIGURE *EVERYTHING* NOW! JUST LET ME DO IT! SHIP GNOME-TWEAK-TOOL IN STANDARD INSTALLATION! I WANT TO CHANGE ALL KEYBOARD SETTINS, BECAUSE I WANT TO WORK IT MY WAY! THE STANDARD ICON THEME IS UGLY! CHANGE IT NOW! NOW APPS, I NEED CONFIGURE ALL OF THEM! I CAN NOT WORK UNTIL I CONFIGURE *EVERYTHING*!... And that sort of things...

I don't see it that way. But what can I say? I use Cinnamon. I don't need any extension or extra things, it just work out of the box.

I don't see it that way. But what can I say? I use Cinnamon. I don't need any extension or extra things, it just work out of the box.

When you just want to stick to Windows-way of using things. With that pannel in the botton, and task-bar on it. And that is also a conflict with GNOME viewings..

Exactly. And why should I change my way for the sake of Gnome development?

Anyway, I never used Windows. My first computer had Linux and I never left it.

Never?

:o

Exactly. And why should I change my way for the sake of Gnome development?

I was "GNOMEified" when I was forced to use GNOME. It was when there was 3.16 just released. I preferred to use OpenSUSE, because KDE on it was the best. I used KDE4. But then KDE devs dropped last KDE4 release, and said - we will focus on KF5. KDE4 was almost awesome. I almost get rid of GTK applications. Used kmail, korganiser... But there was bugs in those, which will never get fixed now. They was small, they can be workarounded, but annoying. And KDE5 was nothere state. And so I decided to switch to something still supported. And that was GNOME. Because cinnamon was still in non-ready state, and I never was a fan of *light* Environments like XFCE. I just wanted to wait for KDE5. But time has passed by. KDE5 still was in the middle of nothere, like it is now. And I understood some things. Then I was on KDE4, I used to hide titlebars, use globalmenu, use that fancy kwin-expo(like that button in Unity dock, which is displaying workplaces), move panels to the side of the window(because on netbook you got less vertical space). And GNOME does all this for me. Activities is like Expo. GNOME apps use CSD, to use titlebars as panels, saving vertical space. There is no menubars in GNOME too. They put panel on the top... So I just get used to it. While KDE5 is still in the middle of nothere. And now I don't give a shit about KDE5, because GNOME is better. ?

Telegram Desktop has just updated to Bots 2.0

Ya

I would love to be a Gnome Dev.

I would love to be a Gnome Dev.

When you must to understand GNOME HIG

HIG?

Oh I see: https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/

It works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWCbauqimag

It works!

Loving this: https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/keyboard-input.html.en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20YXax5-D30

agree

What is *must have* in standard Workstation installation, I think, is gnome-terminal-nautilus. Everytime I need to install it myself, for that "Open Terminal" button. Which is very useful.

Linux mint and other distros have it.

@nexfwall who says you need gnome? KDE comes with more batteries included :)

so does cinnamon

@nexfwall who says you need gnome? KDE comes with more batteries included :)

Well, KDE5 looks awful and still is extremely unstable. KDE4 was better, but it's unsupported anymore

I have been using the plasma shell and I am living it. So to me, the choice of a DE is very subjective . . I love KDE over gnome, but I didn't like the default applications that come with either DE . . so I usually remove all the unnecessary packages and use only the default. If we say kmail sucks, evolution equally sucks. . .

So to me, I am loving KDE and I am going to stick to it.