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linux
17.12.2017
12:39:52
To be elitist they'd have to trying to force you to convert

Kohane
17.12.2017
12:39:54
I keep Chrome. Just to play a video once in a blue moon doesn't worth to install something else.

To be elitist they'd have to trying to force you to convert
Berating and telling users to buy new hardware is not what I consider open. Not to mention that is very unconsiderated and rude.

Tobias?
17.12.2017
12:51:53
You are missing the freeworld libs

Google
Tobias?
17.12.2017
12:52:20
Then look up the if not true then false blog about his chrome install instructions

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
12:54:19
I was just asking if I Chrome was available in the RPMFusion repos or if I needed to grab it from Google. The latter was the answer, so that's what I did. :)

Sheogorath
17.12.2017
13:13:36
._. These discussions… keep calm. When people want to use garbage, let them use garbage. Simply don't support it. When they get ignored they'll notice they are doing something wrong.

Mikhail
17.12.2017
13:13:57
I don't know, only the Genius mouses lives more than 5 years, so they are cool

Tobias?
17.12.2017
13:14:29
._. These discussions… keep calm. When people want to use garbage, let them use garbage. Simply don't support it. When they get ignored they'll notice they are doing something wrong.
Then they might do stupid things like directly installing things from the vendor when the vendor has a repo. Or use makefile-based things that blow up the next OS update.

And then they come whining about how everythings shit and bla and pretend like it was the fault of the OS for letting them to stupid things.

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
13:15:19
I know I'm not blaming the OS. :)

Sheogorath
17.12.2017
13:15:30
Then they might do stupid things like directly installing things from the vendor when the vendor has a repo. Or use makefile-based things that blow up the next OS update.
Then your first question before supporting someone should be: "Did you ever something like…?" and based on this continue support or not

when you tell people that you won't help them because they are not following the best practices, they'll stop doing this nonsense

Tobias?
17.12.2017
13:16:01
I know I'm not blaming the OS. :)
You might not, others do.

Sheogorath
17.12.2017
13:16:07
let them learn it the hard way

Tobias?
17.12.2017
13:16:31
when you tell people that you won't help them because they are not following the best practices, they'll stop doing this nonsense
Only when it does finally blow up - and that can take long and they might taint others in the meantime.

Google
Kohane
17.12.2017
13:18:09
You are missing the freeworld libs
I just said: I watch a video once in a blue moon. Why bother installing something else? This is why I don't get in the hassle of searching and installing strange codecs. Too much of a hassle for something I seldom need. I understand have other usecases and needs.

Sheogorath
17.12.2017
13:18:39
To be honest, I don't care when people start using something else when it works better for them. I tell them once, that something is insecure, should not be done like that, etc. When they don't follow this advice… No discussion anymore. only spicy comments when ever something breaks

Kohane
17.12.2017
13:20:36
I'm too friendly for this :D
I'm friendly until I get bored.

Brian
17.12.2017
13:20:49
Folks, let's watch the language. Opinons are not "poop" - they may or may not be well reasoned so talk about the ideas, not the person.

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Kohane
17.12.2017
13:21:31
Yeah, that's right.

Le Schyken
17.12.2017
13:21:50
Yep.

Brian
17.12.2017
13:22:53
It comes to me in part because I am researching opinions on secure cloud file archiving :D

and some are ... "not well reasoned"

Fernando
17.12.2017
13:36:52
I strongly disagree

Sheogorath
17.12.2017
13:37:38
People get used to common things and they simply do not care to switch to other things
In most cases it's pointless to push people. Most of them take it as offense and that's usually not what you want. So take it easy and wait for the day, when they want them to help you and are open to listen to your words. That's easier for you and the possibity that it works is a lot higher

247
17.12.2017
13:40:23
That's true

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