Run the application installer (for data sync i'd recommend a dotfile repo and nextcloud) and execute sudo dnf upg[...] from above weekly or so - and reboot at minimum monthly

Aights

Even in day-to-day administration, I think it could be easier to use. Usually my pain point is figuring out if/when something is being blocked, and then trying to figure out what the right policy needed is.

Yeah, that happens to me. Reminds me the old Debian that would throw at you a warning with some suggestion that was rather cryptic and a "What do you want to do?" below. Or worse, a warning and the question but no hints at all. I was always like "Err... and no?" I broke the system multiple times. ?

Oh the SELinux handling in Fedora is pretty good and kind of straight forward. At least for people who can read and everyone else can press ignore or report :D

Well, that's one of my issues. There is no "Fuck off" option.

Well, that's one of my issues. There is no "Fuck off" option.

For a good reason

Prove it.

I see no good reasons not to have a fuck off option.

I see no good reasons not to have a fuck off option.

Well, what should this "fuck off" function do?

A button with "Fuck off" written on it. ?

https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2017-December/077449.html

Nice!!!

As long as it works OK with wayland...

GNOME doesn't handle copy/paste correctly yet

GNOME doesn't handle copy/paste correctly yet

in what sense?

GNOME doesn't handle copy/paste correctly yet

True

sadly

True

How does it not?

I can copypaste text, images, ect ect.

in what sense?

Cross-application copy/paste fails, try with gedit, evolution, firefox and the terminal

it doesn't always fail

in what sense?

For example, I do a screenshot, but it does not saved this on the clipboard

if you use a clipboard manager, it may also not get updated after copying from those applications

For example, I do a screenshot, but it does not saved this on the clipboard

Thats normal.

You must use ctrl-shift-print for it to be.

I mean text

As I said, it doesn't always happen

Thats explicitely wanted functionality

there's no clear way to reproduce

For example, I do a screenshot, but it does not saved this on the clipboard

And why would it happen? I take screenshots in other desktops and they're saved in the proper folder. They don't go to clipboard.

it ofter happens to me with long texts and links, and after working with one of those applications for a while, normaly no in the first copy/paste

it's going to be a nightmare to debug this

I'm afraid the same will happen to KDE after moving to wayland by default

Mutter has been working on wayland way longer than Kwin

I don't think Wayland has nothing to do with this.

Gnome Shell copied and pasted stuff normally. I even had a clipboard thing and could clean or change between texts.

it ofter happens to me with long texts and links, and after working with one of those applications for a while, normaly no in the first copy/paste

Yes, it happens that applications cannot handle really long texts.

But my clipboard always worked without a single hiccup for me.

I had a thing similar that i blamed on the os formerly but it was just my ctrl key dying instead.

But my clipboard always worked without a single hiccup for me.

Do you use a clipboard manager? Which one? I use gpaste

Yes, it happens that applications cannot handle really long texts.

Still waiting for an example. I copy&paste some long texts and if it's too long, it just takes some moment but nothing else.

Yes, it happens that applications cannot handle really long texts.

That's really unfortunate

Thus it would often show up with the old content

Do you use a clipboard manager? Which one? I use gpaste

"Intellij" I dont need the clipboard for anything but short-term copypaste. And if i truly need something i copied while intellij was open that keeps a record.

Still waiting for an example. I copy&paste some long texts and if it's too long, it just takes some moment but nothing else.

In GNOME? Do you do it often? like 20 times per minute for half an hour? I envy you then

In GNOME? Do you do it often? like 20 times per minute for half an hour? I envy you then

Eh? Twenty times...? You're exaggerating, don't you?

It's so weird to be on the same side about Gnome @Wolfshappen ....

GNOME doesn't handle copy/paste correctly yet

True!

I don't think Wayland has nothing to do with this.

It does, as this issue completely goes away once using X. :)

Wayland sessions are the ONLY ones that produce this failure.

Weird. It doesn't happen to me.

Definitely. I've had this problem on five different devices, so it's definitely intriguing.

Lovely background BTW

Hello @coder202 welcome to the group. Please, read the pinned message above.

BTW, is there anyone here going to the Chaos Communication Congress?

Nope, too many people who call themselves nerds and enjoying it in one place :D

Well, that's the point of attending.

But my question was a very specific one, as I am attending and holding an Assembly there.

So I wanted to know if someone else is going.

How much time u spend on theming lol

is someone running dwm that had run i3 before?

How much time u spend on theming lol

5 Minutes, why?

Lovely background BTW

Yes, this time not from the waff but from the abstract backgrounds folder :P

But my question was a very specific one, as I am attending and holding an Assembly there.

I hope you have a secondary pc ready then

5 Minutes, why?

But where did u got the wallpaper and themes with the configs for powerline ?

Really lovely...

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But where did u got the wallpaper and themes with the configs for powerline ?

Wallhaven, arc-theme (dnf) + ohmyzsh + my git dotfile repos

I dont use powerline, its just oh-my-zsh with sliightly changed agnoster theme so i see return codes

Ow .. zsh so .. last time read the docs for it decied to came back to my lovely bash

I hope you have a secondary pc ready then

Uh... why?

Uh... why?

The chaos communication congress is an annual conference organized by the Chaos Computer Club The Chaos Computer Club isEurope's largest assocation of hackers I guess when u simply are going to a hackers play ground should be careful as well as if you are not a very confident security expert

Ow .. zsh so .. last time read the docs for it decied to came back to my lovely bash

you can get the same theme in bash it

just install bash it and set your theme to powerline

you can get the same theme in bash it

Very nice .. will install both tonight

Very nice .. will install both tonight

https://github.com/Bash-it/bash-it

I can recommend fish if you don't use any advanced bash features but would like a shell which is really pleasant to use

I use it, even if I have to switch to zsh from time to time to do something more advanced

Ow .. zsh so .. last time read the docs for it decied to came back to my lovely bash

...Why?

Bash is more complex to make several things work, has several times the LOC and in general zsh just works better

I can recommend fish if you don't use any advanced bash features but would like a shell which is really pleasant to use

Just use zsh outright - a shell thats posix compliant and doesnt try to be something a shell shouldnt be - a toy.

Uh... why?

A single open port with a vulnerable application version (keep in mind that there will be hundreds of new vulns on display that havent been fixed yet) can lead to your whole hdd being served in the local network as free for all

Just use zsh outright - a shell thats posix compliant and doesnt try to be something a shell shouldnt be - a toy.

Tried it and sorry, but it's not as usable as fish. When 99% of your shell usage is as a launcher with simple scripting capabilities, fish is just better

For the remaining 1%, I switch to zsh

Tried it and sorry, but it's not as usable as fish. When 99% of your shell usage is as a launcher with simple scripting capabilities, fish is just better

But thats not what a shell should be :P

But thats not what a shell should be :P

But I use it as such, and fish just performs better for me in this case ?

Its a wonderful tool for scripting, complex automation and the power to manage a single or a million servers with one line

Cool, but I don't manage any server, I do svn checkout, compilation etc

Fish is not only enough, it's better suited for that

I agree that for more advanced needs zsh is better

But I don't have those, when I will then I will sadly have to switch ?

Cool, but I don't manage any server, I do svn checkout, compilation etc

Svn? my deepest condolescences.

Svn? my deepest condolescences.

Yeah, it's sad.

But it's not that bad knowing some of the alternatives, even if I'd switch it to git in a heartbeat

well as long are not developing with it it's fine I guess

well as long are not developing with it it's fine I guess

I use it as a vcs currently due to various stupid reasons, it's not as good as git but it's also not as bad as people say... Or maybe it's just Stockholm's syndrome ?

I guess it depends on how much of a git power user you are

But what I like with it is dead simple workflow without any complications, easy to explain for newbies

If you don't do any branches, merges, always have internet and commit to master it's fine I guess