oh what the hell it was?

oh what the hell it was?

You don't want to know. :)

Just a spam of inappropriate content.

What is it name

I don't remember. I used it last year but this year switched to KDE, and when I tried Gnome again a week ago I couldn't find the extension. Pity, it was so useful.

Dnfdragora-updaterbquit unexpectedly ??

Let me guess... Gnome?

Yup

Dnfdragora-updaterbquit unexpectedly ??

as user and with sudo: dnf clean all dnf makecache sudo dnf clean all sudo dnf makecache

Let me guess... Gnome?

Thats nothing to do with gnome, thats dnfdragora not properly checking if the package db has been downloaded. yumex-dnf behaved the same.

Well, Dnfdragora used to fail while logged in Gnome. Hence my assumption.

Whats dnfdragora

It's programme that it's mean to substitute Yumex

It's a GUI for DNF

Like Synaptic in Debian and Ubuntu.

?

What?

Dnfdragora is a graphic user interface to DNF. Instead of managing DNF and repos from terminal, you do it from graphic program. Synaptic does the same but with APT in Debian and derivatives.

Any newbie guide to learn linux? ??

I actually have some in my hands but I don't know if you're any near to me.

So like that software app used to udate apps instead of command line?

Which one?

Oh, Gnome Software you mean? No.

Gnome Software uses its own stuff.

It's not a GUI for DNF.

Is dnfdragora a fork of rpmdragora or is it the other way round?

I don't know. I didn't know there was a rpmdragora ?

It's not a GUI for DNF.

technicallz it is

It uses packagekit (a distro and package manager angostic tool) to call dnf.

It goes around dnf's checking and logs by using rpm in the back tough but it still uses the internals to manage it

Yeah, but it also uses other stuff. There are packages available with DNF impossible to find in Gnome Software.

Maybe now they changed that?

Yeah, but it also uses other stuff. There are packages available with DNF impossible to find in Gnome Software.

Thats just the gnome store being the gnome store.

Ah.

That has very little to do with packagekit i think - and yes its ... less than optimal.

Okay.

If it makes you feel better @Wolfshappen , Discover, the KDE equivalent, works horrible. The interface is better IMO but it froze the whole desktop.

If it makes you feel better @Wolfshappen , Discover, the KDE equivalent, works horrible. The interface is better IMO but it froze the whole desktop.

The only thing that'd make me feel better is dnfdragora waiting or manually loading the packagedb on first start so it doesnt crash

so i tried to install xfce in fedora... and thats why i got those packages... damn you gotta read all those lines in terminal ?

so i tried to install xfce in fedora... and thats why i got those packages... damn you gotta read all those lines in terminal ?

If thats a revelation to you i might have bad news.

kinda

on the bright side i learnt i can reboot by just typing reboot ? thats cool

Fedora WorkstationOstree ostree x86_64 27 Fedora Workstation Live x86_64 27 Fedora Astronomy_KDE Live x86_64 27 Fedora Jam_KDE Live x86_64 27 Fedora KDE Live x86_64 27 What is the difference?!

Fedora Labs, Fedora Spins, and Fedora Workstation.

Software packs and DEs

It's explained on the fedora sites

https://twitter.com/RanjithRajV/status/941382370980012032

https://www.reddit.com/r/netneutrality/comments/7jtol4/killing_netnetrality_in_the_us_affects_the_whole/

The only thing that'd make me feel better is dnfdragora waiting or manually loading the packagedb on first start so it doesnt crash

It doesn't crash for me...

It doesn't crash for me...

Because you already downloaded the repos already likely.

by doing any yum, dnf or similar command :P

Or after 1-2 days

to me kde discovery is quite a mess...i mean, it may be good as a software but everything in there seems so much out of size...

and (i repeat, to me) gnome software is much easier to understand

oh and by the way, in fedora 26 was crashing or freezing almost everytime

Because you already downloaded the repos already likely.

Uhm... What do you mean with download them? Like when after doing dnf clean all...?

Uhm... What do you mean with download them? Like when after doing dnf clean all...?

A single dnf search dnf install dnf update dnf makecache or opening the gnome store or having your pc run when the automated update hits - in all those cases you'd have the files available.

Uhm. Okay.

And Dnfdragora crashes for you?

Only if installed right after installing fedora and opening it.

Of course i have downloaded the lists long before trough my update script. But i can recommend dnfdragora to total beginners on their first day because it just closes, again and again and ag....

I can't *

Well, it doesn't crash for me.

It has its quirkiness, and I already reported it, but I use it very often and works fine.

Well, it doesn't crash for me.

Well i am sure that it has improved from f26 to f27

Of course i have downloaded the lists long before trough my update script. But i can recommend dnfdragora to total beginners on their first day because it just closes, again and again and ag....

To me yum-extender still seems a better software than dnf dragora

ERROR: S client not available

Yeah, it was better, but now it's deprecated.

eww… Sometimes I really dislike SELinux. Not for being secure, but for its way of configuration

eww… Sometimes I really dislike SELinux. Not for being secure, but for its way of configuration

Even in day-to-day administration, I think it could be easier to use. Usually my pain point is figuring out if/when something is being blocked, and then trying to figure out what the right policy needed is.

Oh that's not really my problem. But the need of building my policies on my target machines to not run into versioning issues is very annoying :/ I don't want to setup an selinux-policy build environment on my servers. neither as CI nor on every server where I want to apply a policy :/

Oh that's not really my problem. But the need of building my policies on my target machines to not run into versioning issues is very annoying :/ I don't want to setup an selinux-policy build environment on my servers. neither as CI nor on every server where I want to apply a policy :/

How do you mean by versioning issues?

Things like this: libsepol.policydb_read: policydb module version 19 does not match my version range 4-17 The .pp file is a already build version from a Fedora 27 :D

the system where it was intended to run is centos 7.4

and crosscompiling policies is not supported. I'll probably end up with a container building the policy -,-

eww… Sometimes I really dislike SELinux. Not for being secure, but for its way of configuration

I like what SELinux tries and mostly succeeds to do, but I think its implementation is garbage. It's not really desktop-use ready software.

It's just janky, obnoxious, and not very intuitive for a desktop software.

Oh the SELinux handling in Fedora is pretty good and kind of straight forward. At least for people who can read and everyone else can press ignore or report :D

It's certainly gotten a lot better. I think the necessity to still have a "stop disabling SELinux" crusade is a good indicator that it's still not where it should be yet.

Though that crusade pisses me off, it serves a good purpose.

Hi, I'm buying a dell xps 13 and I want mount on it fedora 27. How many problem or bugs I'll meet when I'll do it (wifi driver etc..) ?

If you go for the Dell XPS Developer Edition (The one fully Intel based) you will not face a single problem. The Dell XPS non Developer Edition (The normie one) has a shitty closed broadcom Wireless Network Card so...

I don't know. I didn't know there was a rpmdragora ?

Old mandriva app, it's now on mageia.

Hey guyd

Of course i have downloaded the lists long before trough my update script. But i can recommend dnfdragora to total beginners on their first day because it just closes, again and again and ag....

Could you PM me your update script?

Wonderful, thanks man

That's fantastic, thanks. Do i need to change anything besides the list of apps( to suit my tastes)?

I.e are the version numbers automated?

That's fantastic, thanks. Do i need to change anything besides the list of apps( to suit my tastes)?

Well, if you dont use gnome make sure to exclude the shell addons - and all

Excuse the lack of knowledge...

I.e are the version numbers automated?

Oh thats my install script

Well, if you dont use gnome make sure to exclude the shell addons - and all

GNOME is my workflow...

updating is a simple sudo dnf upgrade --best --allowerasing --refresh -y

Oh thats my install script

Oh OK, I needed that too.

updating is a simple sudo dnf upgrade --best --allowerasing --refresh -y

Yeah kewl

Oh thats my install script

Same q stands tho, for when I do new installs.

Same q stands tho, for when I do new installs.

It will use the highest available version together with all dependencies that will be auto-updated

but thats the magic of dnf :P

Run the application installer (for data sync i'd recommend a dotfile repo and nextcloud) and execute sudo dnf upg[...] from above weekly or so - and reboot at minimum monthly