Nice dreams you have there.

That was someone before saying that

Not me. I wish Microsoft did not ever had any involvement in Linux at all.

That's my wish. :>

The only fear i have is to have less workplaces available with execs saying "but you can use linux on windows now!"

For which they can go and fuck themselves

Why would a workplace use a Linux unless they have a reason for it

The only fear i have is to have less workplaces available with execs saying "but you can use linux on windows now!"

You could do that with VMs before too

Why would a workplace use a Linux unless they have a reason for it

Coders.

Literally.

Coders.

Well. That's the only reason.

I'm a devop - and fuck off with any windows out of my sight.

And usually programming companies let you choose gear and software you run

Unless they're shit. :D

I don't know what a devop is.

Well. That's the only reason.

Coders, Deployment adminstrators, cloud management, general machine management - anything that doesnt have to do with exec's or the designers that learned with adobe in uni.

Unless they're shit. :D

There are a lot of shit companies that give coders next to 0 own rights or freedom

I'm just happy i can choose

Well. Then it's their own fault for working for such companies.

I bet?

There's a lot of choice

I don't know what a devop is.

The guy that talks about the project with you, starts on the team with it, buys, administers and maintains the hardware and os/stuff running on it, makes the ansible playbooks, deployment hooks, CI management, meetings and in his free time gets to code and document

I bet?

Not really, some dont know better and in some towns many places are already full and you have a really hard time getting into it - taking even a shittier job than one is worth it.

The guy that talks about the project with you, starts on the team with it, buys, administers and maintains the hardware and os/stuff running on it, makes the ansible playbooks, deployment hooks, CI management, meetings and in his free time gets to code and document

Well. I do all of that except for provisioning machines and using puppet. :p

Well. I do all of that except for provisioning machines and using puppet. :p

Yes, altough we do have some "cloud" servers too. :P

And several old colleagues got us off puppet and were downright violent against using it after experiencing ansible goodness

Not really, some dont know better and in some towns many places are already full and you have a really hard time getting into it - taking even a shittier job than one is worth it.

Excuses. Just move.

Excuses. Just move.

I dont need to move, i have my linux and my linux servers :3

And we're actively working on getting the last pests out of the wood :3

And several old colleagues got us off puppet and were downright violent against using it after experiencing ansible goodness

I have sysadmins to do that. We tend to use gitlab CI and k8s integration these days.

So it's quite easy to deploy.

I dont need to move, i have my linux and my linux servers :3

Well. People who don't have work in their town can move to other place or work remotely.

And we're actively working on getting the last pests out of the wood :3

Meaning?

Meaning?

Windows Servers for some customers

Lol

:D

UK national health service is a pain to work with because of that

they run outdated TLS on their lovely windows servers

:D

But I don't think my company ever take on managing windows server machine. Sounds a bit suicidal.

You must be brave

they run outdated TLS on their lovely windows servers

Can't even use python urllib to make http requests...

Does go still work? :3

Good evening guys :D

Does go still work? :3

Go?

Go?

Golang

Oh. You mean puppet?

UK national health service is a pain to work with because of that

Hey remember that time wannacry happened?

Hey remember that time wannacry happened?

Yea? What about it?

~~Just saying that if they ran Linux it wouldn't have happened~~

Wait I swear telegram used to have strikethrough

Hey remember that time wannacry happened?

outdated systems ? it was kinda fun to read about

outdated systems ? it was kinda fun to read about

They're all server 2003, iirc

They're all server 2003, iirc

absolutely updated

Golang

Or did you mean k8s?

and I'm sure they don't upgrade because it will cost them too much

Well. NHS is made out of trusts. Its a bit different to what you think

Or did you mean k8s?

https://golang.org/

Do you use Golant for k8s?

I know what Golang is. Just asking you what you refer to

and I'm sure they don't upgrade because it will cost them too much

Well. Go and upgrade the organisation that provides health service to 60 million people. Wish you luck.

And is made out of trusts that each runs their own IT

and I'm sure they don't upgrade because it will cost them too much

Fun fact: It's proven, that more frequent updates are cheaper. And from a business studies perspective way better to calculate. So let's see how it turns out :D

Well. Go and upgrade the organisation that provides health service to 60 million people. Wish you luck.

I genuinley wonder how much money they would have saved on me alone with the amount of extra paper work and testing that has to be done, in comparison to how much it would cost to upgrade to modern hardware and software

I genuinley wonder how much money they would have saved on me alone with the amount of extra paper work and testing that has to be done, in comparison to how much it would cost to upgrade to modern hardware and software

Well. They're learning lessons. Its just quite a slow process. :)

Well. They're learning lessons. Its just quite a slow process. :)

I had 5 Seperate blood tests lost in the space of a month

ERROR: S client not available

Well. They're learning lessons. Its just quite a slow process. :)

Lol, nice joke ?

Wait, maybe 2-3 Months

I can't remember

the Italian Health System doesn't work very well

Just because you had blood tests lost doesn't mean much to me.

:p

you can see your sanitary things via Internet and AFAIK they doesn't use HTTPS, but HTTP. Even for login data

I know what Golang is. Just asking you what you refer to

The programming language :P

In case you missed this: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/linux-kernel-developer-laura-abbott/

Hey man

hey

glad to be here

i Everyone: Im having a problem with #virsh when attempting to connect to a guest VM, whenever i type "console <vm name>" the only message i get is "^ is the escape button" it's hangs on there and i am forcerd to shuttdown the host. Is anyone else having this problem on Redhat and centos

<porfiriopaiz> exit

Anyone notice the new p2p privacy option for Telegram calls in the last update? I thought that was a nice addition

You can only use peer-to-peer calls with contacts only, to avoid giving your IP address

oh nice. how do you trigger it?

I moved some files to a usb stick and removed it without unmounting... Now its showinh but not mounting

Any way to recover the files

Why? People only need to file the build instructions before they upgrade. Like during the beta. Since Docker releases on a monthly basis, it's not very useful. -> https://github.com/docker/docker-ce/tree/17.12/components/packaging/rpm Fedora 27 is included in the upcomming release 17.12

So. I have F26 and use Docker CE. I have the latest version of Docker installed. I upgrade to F27 and I assume I'll get the same Docker CE version from the repo after I've upgraded to F27. But no. I need to wait for the new Docker CE version to release to upgrade my system. This is a complete nonsense.

Приветствую, ищу прогера для комбайна под linkedin. Необходим авторегистратор + рассыльщик. Работа через браузер с подменой отпечатков. Бюджет до 1 к $. Писать в лс

Just ban this guy. We already did in our group. He asks for things that violates LinkedIn EULA.

Why? People only need to file the build instructions before they upgrade. Like during the beta. Since Docker releases on a monthly basis, it's not very useful. -> https://github.com/docker/docker-ce/tree/17.12/components/packaging/rpm Fedora 27 is included in the upcomming release 17.12

It is a lot more than a month since the F27 went GA. We still have nothing in Docker CE repo for it.

So. I have F26 and use Docker CE. I have the latest version of Docker installed. I upgrade to F27 and I assume I'll get the same Docker CE version from the repo after I've upgraded to F27. But no. I need to wait for the new Docker CE version to release to upgrade my system. This is a complete nonsense.

Yep, when you need docker-ce it's up to you to tell them early enough. Simply removing the fedora support completely is not an option

Also you can various package updates when you upgrade the distro version. So why not also docker?

Yea. But why would Microsoft choose Linux

Commercial reasons. Linux is now too big to ignore. Or they join or they'll soon be isolated.

BTW, and just for your information: I don't see where is that update to kernel 4.14

BTW, and just for your information: I don't see where is that update to kernel 4.14

Check again as i updated to 4.14 yesterday afternoon

BTW, and just for your information: I don't see where is that update to kernel 4.14

dnf update --best --allowerasing --refresh unless you are on fedora 26

BTW, and just for your information: I don't see where is that update to kernel 4.14

has been fixed the backdoor in 4.14 ?

has been fixed the backdoor in 4.14 ?

what backdoor?