I prefer to use it without wrappers. :)

Its not really a wrapper. it just neatly puts several wine versions side by side.

you loose no performance and gain tons of manageability.

thanks a lot

Lol... Yesterday someone commented that Windows is a botnet ??

Isn't it? Also, commented here?

Is canonical slowly selling Linux to micro$oft?

Is canonical slowly selling Linux to micro$oft?

Microsoft is being good guy nowadays, no offense but look to those 300 open source projects, we can't unsee them

Lol... Yesterday someone commented that Windows is a botnet ??

XD

Call me traitor but I like typescript and vs code ;)

Call me traitor but I like typescript and vs code ;)

go see purescript

Microsoft is being good guy nowadays, no offense but look to those 300 open source projects, we can't unsee them

A lot of people are saying "embrace extend extinguish", and I kinda agree, based on their nasty history...

go see purescript

Does it have statically typibg optionally :) ?

Microsoft is being good guy nowadays, no offense but look to those 300 open source projects, we can't unsee them

They are just throwing dust on people's eyes

vscode is really impressive though

Another q: were Fedora devs involved in the Fedora wsl?

Does it have statically typibg optionally :) ?

no, but it has strong haskell-like type system :)

A lot of people are saying "embrace extend extinguish", and I kinda agree, based on their nasty history...

Nasty ? What nasty things they did anyways ? I'm curious

vscode is really impressive though

If you use m$'s prebuilt packages, it phones home to them.

Nasty ? What nasty things they did anyways ? I'm curious

Hold on. There was an excellent reddit post. I'll link when I'm at pc.

If you use m$'s prebuilt packages, it phones home to them.

so what?

so what?

Unlike you, I actually care about muh privacy.

They are just throwing dust on people's eyes

They are promoting their product, I don't see any harm in that, well of course they used to be the jerky company in the past, but I think not anymore.

Hold on. There was an excellent reddit post. I'll link when I'm at pc.

Okay :)

They are promoting their product, I don't see any harm in that, well of course they used to be the jerky company in the past, but I think not anymore.

I think they realised they were losing too much. A case of join them or die.

I think they realised they were losing too much. A case of join them or die.

Exactly

And that's not bad

I think they realised they were losing too much. A case of join them or die.

+1.

And that's not bad

For now

Windows Mobile is dead, and windows desktop will be, if they keep doing their nonsense.

Unless it manages to attract devs back

Then it will be bad

Because f*ck options

Because f*ck options

We have all the options we need in Linux, thanks very much ;p

And that's not bad

Contrary. Means we have a weight now we never had before.

Unless it manages to attract devs back

As Windows Mobile proved, easier said than done.

Unless it manages to attract devs back

C# now is one of the most complete languages now imho

There are no good or bad, complete or incomplete programming languages

Each one has its place and use

You wouldn't use Visual Basic for a backend right?

I think they realised they were losing too much. A case of join them or die.

Yeah adapt or die

Windows Mobile is dead, and windows desktop will be, if they keep doing their nonsense.

I wish but ... we have a problem with windows being pre-installed on every new machine you buy it and with billions of people who don't even know what the name of "Linux" stands for

Oh guys

You wouldn't use Visual Basic for a backend right?

Sure

Would not touch anything stone aged

Windows desktop lives with lots of powerful enterprise systems built on it

Would not touch anything stone aged

You should never use E-Mail again :D

and so it will until these systems do

You should never use E-Mail again :D

Or IRC, ugh, antique ?

You should never use E-Mail again :D

Email services are being developed rn, visual basic is deprecated somehow

Or IRC, ugh, antique ?

yes :D But mail is older than IRC ?

Idk, I use both e-mail and IRC. :)

Idk, I use both e-mail and IRC. :)

yes, and they are awesome :x ??

Psst

I also use ICQ

I don't like irc. they don't have stickers like telegram

But don’t tell anyone. :P

I would love for Riot to get better

Because it has great potential

Matrix surely can become XXI century IRC.

Because it has great potential

until they run out of money :x Sad but true

I don't like irc. they don't have stickers like telegram

One of the main reasons I don't use it ?

Also because it has been designed mostly for group chats and not one-to-one

One of the main reasons I don't use it ?

Will maybe change in future with client-tags by IRCv3. Then it's up to the clients to implement these things ^^ https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications

vscode is really impressive though

If only the addon infrastructure was open source too.

typescript - yes. but the second they add a ie-only feature they can fuck off.

ERROR: S client not available

Nasty ? What nasty things they did anyways ? I'm curious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Nasty ? What nasty things they did anyways ? I'm curious

http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/

Just

I can’t blame Microsoft.

It’s business.

Indeed

It’s business.

Shitty business that they rightfully got sued, screwed and ducked over for.

As they say

$20M is $20M

People’ve done worse things for less.

We had standard - i get that they want to lock consumers to themselves but shouldnt everybody strive to be the best trough the best service? .. oh wait.

But, well, I’d not made deals with them.

I wish but ... we have a problem with windows being pre-installed on every new machine you buy it and with billions of people who don't even know what the name of "Linux" stands for

:(

Microsoft is being good guy nowadays, no offense but look to those 300 open source projects, we can't unsee them

Regarding past M$ behaviour, I know one thing. Canonical is going to be next Nokia.

Isn't it? Also, commented here?

Yeah ? but No , not here. That comment was on a blog post by omgubuntu, regarding what Mark shuttleworth's said about switching ubuntu DE from unity to GNOME.

Yeah ? but No , not here. That comment was on a blog post by omgubuntu, regarding what Mark shuttleworth's said about switching ubuntu DE from unity to GNOME.

By a person named Sid? Yeah, that was me.

By a person named Sid? Yeah, that was me.

Yeah....

Regarding past M$ behaviour, I know one thing. Canonical is going to be next Nokia.

As long as they don't become the next m$

@GhAliesh look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/72o8qh/the_sordid_history_of_microsoft_or_alternatively/

Regarding past M$ behaviour, I know one thing. Canonical is going to be next Nokia.

don't know about that, but definitely the side gaining more on this business is MS itself

Approximately how far apart are Fedora releases? It seems not that long ago I was installing F26 at its debut!

does someone know how to install wayland driver on freebsd and replace xorg with it?

does someone know how to install wayland driver on freebsd and replace xorg with it?

" NOTE this page needs work While Wayland isn't ready for general use. This article will collect some information about Wayland."

In short: dont.

does someone know how to install wayland driver on freebsd and replace xorg with it?

is it even available for freebsd?

can i have jdk9 and 8 both installed on my computer ??

yes

yes

+1

how ?

By installing both of them.

You can specify which you'd like to call on a per-application basis if you'd like.