@fedora
Tobias?04.10.2017
12:43:15
12:43:15
We will see :D I know it's often not perfect and there is always a red place somewhere. But since it is my job to keep an eye on exactly this, I can't say "oh okay, just leave it as it is" ;)
I see red corners everywhere and sometimes you have to force people to fix them because it's so ugly code that no one want to touch it :D But that are the places that needs the most love :D And some of them become pretty nice after refactoring. So keep going!
Oh great, i can hand you over this 15-year old behemoth in php with custom "CMS"
Each page ending in a replacer, writing variables all over the place, frameset for navigation.
No central routes, files doing classes, functions and code at the same time, some bash/cmd/mysql/mssql
Oh and best of all it needs to get new features while you make an api-based replacement.Have fun :3
Sheogorath04.10.2017
12:44:55
12:44:55
Sounds like a project you would rewrite from scratch
Tobias?04.10.2017
12:45:24
12:45:24
Sounds like a project you would rewrite from scratch
Thats the plan. But the old one is still used and maintaining it takes two devs fulltime.
Google
Michał04.10.2017
12:45:28
12:45:28
Tobias?04.10.2017
12:45:36
12:45:36
So you need to justify paying atleast three
Michał04.10.2017
12:45:40
12:45:40
what is usually the case ;)
Tobias?04.10.2017
12:46:00
12:46:00
have fun without any test suites
You laugh.
No frontend, backend, anyhting tests.
Debug via var_dump/echo.Michał04.10.2017
12:46:25
12:46:25
You laugh.
No frontend, backend, anyhting tests.
Debug via var_dump/echo.
I don't, I've been there too many times, the suggestion "let's rewrite this immediately" is the worst you can doTobias?04.10.2017
12:46:32
12:46:32
until 5 years ago not even any VCS.
And without me we still wouldn't have a laravel-based api even now and would've kept going on.
Oh and its running on IIS 6 with native COM for excel integration.
Status of removing that:
"Roadmap for next year"
I learned how not to do a project by working on this one. XD
Sheogorath04.10.2017
12:50:02
12:50:02
But the project I was working on wasn't such a "disaster" ^^
Michał04.10.2017
12:51:48
12:51:48
But the project I was working on wasn't such a "disaster" ^^
these are more common than you think, and the worst thing is - they usually _work_, so when there's one small thing to change inside it's hard to justify the manhours you need to spend to make sure it won't blow up... ;)
Justin04.10.2017
15:04:30
15:04:30
Hey there @meskarune, welcome! ?
Google
Gwindor04.10.2017
15:07:00
15:07:00
Good evening, everybody
SadinGwindor04.10.2017
15:08:50
15:08:50
Hi Sadin. :)
Gwindor04.10.2017
15:39:50
15:39:50
Hi Justin.
MiB04.10.2017
16:39:14
16:39:14
?
Ahmed
(■_■¬)04.10.2017
16:55:12
16:55:12
I can't use Flash in Firefox 56 (F26). I thought it will be available until 2020
You should better use Google Chrome, that is the only and single use that I give to Google Chrome, because enabling the Adobe Flash repo is shitty, from my humble point of view.
And given that there is a Spotify Flatpak for it, I stopped using Google Chrome.
Juan04.10.2017
16:57:02
16:57:02
There is an update queued that fixes this issue
Tobias?04.10.2017
17:05:54
17:05:54
There is an update queued that fixes this issue
The only update to fix this is killing flash once and for all.And 2020 better be a hardcut and not a roll backward with "oh we'll keep a usage path available"
Justin04.10.2017
17:09:17
17:09:17
So you might actually win that one
Juan04.10.2017
17:10:15
17:10:15
At work, we have a new Hitachi all-SSD storage array, and guess what, you can only manage it with a flash web page ?
Tobias?04.10.2017
17:10:45
17:10:45
So you might actually win that one
There is nothing to win - Flash is a threat to security, portability and the web overall so everyone wins by killing it. And it might give monetary support to rewrite some of those 20 year old flash webapps. XDAt work, we have a new Hitachi all-SSD storage array, and guess what, you can only manage it with a flash web page ?
Put Fedora on it and make it nfs! >:3Juan04.10.2017
17:11:31
17:11:31
Amazing they still release new products based on flash
linux04.10.2017
17:16:03
17:16:03
lazy and or hopelessly naive programmers manufactorers
Google
Dhanesh04.10.2017
18:21:42
18:21:42
Just upgraded to F26 from F25. System freezes after logging in. Anybody else come across anything similar?
Tobias?04.10.2017
18:27:23
18:27:23
Just upgraded to F26 from F25. System freezes after logging in. Anybody else come across anything similar?
click the cog, select "gnome on xorg"If you had nvidia and installed the drivers not from rpmfusion may a higher entity help you if you believe in any
Victor Hugo04.10.2017
19:18:25
19:18:25
fyi the upgrade path will be using a pepper api reimplementation
fresh player
since flash is dead
Victor Hugo04.10.2017
19:35:24
19:35:24
it's undead
MiB04.10.2017
20:35:35
20:35:35
?
Antoine04.10.2017
20:36:05
20:36:05
If only that were true then we could have used holy water to purge it
Brig ?04.10.2017
20:39:02
20:39:02
Why does fedora roll out libinput now
Igor04.10.2017
20:39:17
20:39:17
because it is cool?
Brig ?04.10.2017
20:39:38
20:39:38
Its not that good on my hardware
tried to get synaptics which only installed libinput again
Igor04.10.2017
20:41:44
20:41:44
synaptics got completely replaced by libinput in F26 (IIRC)
Swift11005.10.2017
01:06:08
01:06:08
hey
GoogleBrig ?05.10.2017
01:06:46
01:06:46
Hi
It's only the irc dude
Must say I gave up on fedora
Got in my bloody way
Herry05.10.2017
01:39:17
01:39:17
When I connect the laptop to wired internet connection, the cursor of the touchpad is a bit jumpy.
AdminERROR: S client not available
Hakimi05.10.2017
04:02:59
04:02:59
Very niece tanks
Kohane05.10.2017
10:09:32
10:09:32
I was going to do so, but some Spin.
How's working there? Are you testing Workstation or something else?
Aris05.10.2017
10:17:54
10:17:54
Some 3rd part repo still broken, such as virtualbox
Try on core i7 8gb ram and celeron 4gb ram, they fine and smooth
Still have no problem
I'll try using pop icon and theme
Hope more awesome in f27
GoogleAris05.10.2017
10:22:42
10:22:42
Abdelrhman05.10.2017
10:26:41
10:26:41
Good luck
Aris05.10.2017
10:31:39
10:31:39
Thank you
Tobias?05.10.2017
10:35:45
10:35:45
Some 3rd part repo still broken, such as virtualbox
i should buy stop-using-virtualbox.com to avoid repeating myself XDL05.10.2017
10:41:45
10:41:45
I'm having issues with SELinux and Samba home shares. I set samba_enable_home_dirs to on, yet I get NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*. Only when I set samba_export_all_rw, everything works as expected, but that cannot be the ultimate solution...
Tobias?05.10.2017
11:09:24
11:09:24
I'm having issues with SELinux and Samba home shares. I set samba_enable_home_dirs to on, yet I get NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*. Only when I set samba_export_all_rw, everything works as expected, but that cannot be the ultimate solution...
The ultimate solution is NFS.Or sshfs.
L05.10.2017
11:18:04
11:18:04
Or sshfs.
obviously I am required to use samba, otherwise I wouldn't be voluntarily going through this hasslethat's like if I had a problem with debian and you said "just use ubuntu"
it doesn't help much
Tobias?05.10.2017
11:19:05
11:19:05
Well, since windows can natively handle nfs the only reason you'd use samba for anything would be its pseudo-active-directory.
thats why i'm suggesting it.
Abdelrhman05.10.2017
11:25:09
11:25:09
is there a way to install fedora without (usb & cd) ?
Michał05.10.2017
11:27:58
11:27:58
is there a way to install fedora without (usb & cd) ?
I would try netboot, but this is hard to set up; you need to have another computer with tftp serverhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SystemConfig/netboot or https://llbb.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/installing-ubuntu-or-fedora-via-pxe-netboot/ but this guide is very old
I didn't try any of this so no guarantees
Abdelrhman05.10.2017
11:30:02
11:30:02
no , i meant to boot the iso from grub or similair thing
i remember i was booted to fedora ISO directly from grub , but it wasn't seen the HDD , because i already booted to the iso from this HDD :3
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