my Moto G5S Plus usually uses 1.7GB of RAM on 3GB

Cache /buffer + android application management. Unused memory is wasted memory.

Cache /buffer + android application management. Unused memory is wasted memory.

rip it

Cache /buffer + android application management. Unused memory is wasted memory.

Yeah, but if your applications get killed constantly then it's not efficient usage, it's just not enough memory. And I didn't have too much of apps installed there, almost nothing running persistently in the background ?

Yeah, but if your applications get killed constantly then it's not efficient usage, it's just not enough memory. And I didn't have too much of apps installed there, almost nothing running persistently in the background ?

Agreed

And if you are using your laptop for consumption, android works better.

Consumption? What’s that?

It is all about the Desktop Environment. I have Fedora 26 with OpenBox running in an old X40.

True. I use XFCE with Debian Testing. Works nicely. And with some tweaking it’s beautiful.

the flathub one works great for me https://flathub.org/apps.html

Awesome, this did the trick.

Thanks.

cool :)

Consumption? What’s that?

Primary usage would be Facebook, mail, music. Not development, running your own mail server, ...

They should colorized it based on usage not Arch. Like network, rescue, desktop, service, vm, ...

Anybody ever heard about distro named Manjaro? It's number 3 in distrowatch list. I think it's not reliable. Is it?

Manjaro is basically a reskinned Arch that is already setup

at least for daily use

i never tried it out myself, but i know it is popular

Good to know

yep

npm install gtop -g

It doesn't need X

It use 5% cpu!

that's still too much cpu

10% of a single core for a monitoring software.

Nah, thanks, I would stick to top

Oh the basic idea behind gtop is nice and it looks awesome but it can't beat top because top is a standard tool, works without nodejs installed and has years of proofen quality work. So it a nice toy for a private desktop when you develop NodeJS applications, but for everything else good old top is the way to go

that's still too much cpu

Yes it is too much for monitoring

hmm, has hell frozen over

microsoft has decided to play ball with linux

Oh the basic idea behind gtop is nice and it looks awesome but it can't beat top because top is a standard tool, works without nodejs installed and has years of proofen quality work. So it a nice toy for a private desktop when you develop NodeJS applications, but for everything else good old top is the way to go

Yeah who'd want their system tools written in fucking JavaScript

Yeah who'd want their system tools written in fucking JavaScript

Python I think

node.js though

node.js though

With its ugly dependency tree

Anybody ever heard about distro named Manjaro? It's number 3 in distrowatch list. I think it's not reliable. Is it?

They released their own laptop and now you can see them climbing up that list

manjaro : archlinux :: ubuntu : debian

hmm

its like arch i guess

arch with less dumb, but with the same micromanaging

I never tried arch. Why it's dumb? Give me one simple example.

let's see...

the whole "wow we have no installer because copying and pasting commands is so cool!!!"

?

What about bash scripts?

https://github.com/FZUG/repo/tree/master/rpms/deepin_project ?

lol they despise any automation in the install process

because "LEARNING TO INSTALL ARCH"

when is deepin getting upstreamed

it *is* a good learning experience

i don't think so

it wasn't for me

the time spent copying the commands from the wiki could be spent doing anything of value

I think any os, program, software and service is made for simply the problems not becoming another problem

i don't think arch users agree with that

they want to be doing everything manually because "learning experience"

sometimes you gotta get things done instead of fiddling with pointless things

Probably they don't have any problems that why they choose it to get busy

that's the vibe i get from them

its like gentoo users i guess

compiling all your packages to gain that extra cycle

all joke aside, your time isn't valuable on either

i learned a lot about how linux OSs are constructed by running arch and gentoo for a few years

i run fedora now, because i don't have the time to fiddle with broken packages. so instead i just deal with broken packages and compatibility problems every 6 months :)

ha, that's why i said that your time isn't valuable

ehhh, its no longer every 6 months now

you can just do a system upgrade and it works perfectly

ERROR: S client not available

well, yea. i just do things like try to mess around with wayland and my optimus GPUs every new fedora

wayland worked great in f25, broken in f26, works again in f27

but then i stop and settle on some set up for 6-ish months

it's the perfect cadence for me

i do wish clang 5 was made available

rather, llvm 5, as bcc requires it

hmm, y'know what i need to figure out? how to use containers

i feel old just because i don't know how to use them

containers are awesome

and not just for devops nerds

https://fedoramagazine.org/container-technologies-fedora-systemd-nspawn/

https://fedoramagazine.org/container-technologies-fedora-docker/

So anyone knows where symlink for systemd enabled services are stored ?

My lightdm got borked

borked how

Incomplete transaction by package manager

eh

why not drop into the terminal and reinstall it

Kernel panic while updating

Lightdm keeps crashing and won't let me use another tty

So I booted by passing init bin/bash in kernel

But network services don't seem to work here ?

chroot iunno

hmm

okay so if the kernel panicked, why not switch to another tty instance and run it

or a older kernel

i dunno

lightdm breaking wont stop you from using other tty instances

okay so if the kernel panicked, why not switch to another tty instance and run it

It panicked while it was working good enough

Now lightdm don't let me switch tty

Keeps crashing and starting