Jay
Change your repo and upgrade again
polyduekes
Built != released
it's quite an obvious info that pkg can't find packages that aren't built and if they are dependencies of some other packages then well you know the rest of the story
polyduekes
it's quite an obvious info that pkg can't find packages that aren't built and if they are dependencies of some other packages then well you know the rest of the story
which queued package builds and failed packages builds indeed are
polyduekes
Change your repo and upgrade again
it's not a me only thing if you will try to look and i have mentioned and showed before that changing mirror doesn't help
Jay
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-14-2-amd64-april-2025-quarterly-update.97438/ this?
Jay
it's not a me only thing if you will try to look and i have mentioned and showed before that changing mirror doesn't help
Changing to "latest" helps (for some).
polyduekes
Changing to "latest" helps (for some).
yes it does "for some" anyways the purpose of my original message was to notify users using quarterly branch to beware before agreeing to pkg upgrade and why
polyduekes
also it's quite funny that to handle an issue with quarterly branch (temporary albeit) switching to latest is one of the solution while quarterly was supposed to provide more stable and predictable UX
polyduekes
i think i would be switching to stable or current to avoid headaches like these in the future
polyduekes
or maybe just use the ports collection and the src tree
Jay
It seems to be a problem with dependencies on the builder's side. I have to apologize.
polyduekes
i know there would be explanation for this but heh, it's still funny how the before label in a rc script is for telling what scripts should run after this script
polyduekes
is it possible for a command inside stop_cmd in a rc script to execute on system reboot?
polyduekes
is it possible for a command inside stop_cmd in a rc script to execute on system reboot?
not like the system starting part of the reboot but at the point the system is turning off after executing reboot(8)
polyduekes
Arminio
Arminio
just reporting success. Greetings from Frankfurt. 😉
Maxim
which console font is that?
Arminio
which console font is that?
That is the one I specified in my xterm-resizable script, 1 sec...
Arminio
https://codeberg.org/armin/snippets/raw/branch/master/xterm-resizable
Arminio
so, looks like "Monospace" antialiased
Maxim
oh, ok, thanks
polyduekes
i didn't knew neofetch doesn't show font, fastfetch does
Arminio
i didn't knew neofetch doesn't show font, fastfetch does
Both have downsides, though, be sure to check BOTH and do a tiny comparison, you'll notice things that are present/abandoned in both so to say
polyduekes
Both have downsides, though, be sure to check BOTH and do a tiny comparison, you'll notice things that are present/abandoned in both so to say
what's the downside/abandoned in fastfetch that isn't in neofetch? also i wasn't comparing, just generally speaking that today i learnt that
Arminio
what's the downside/abandoned in fastfetch that isn't in neofetch? also i wasn't comparing, just generally speaking that today i learnt that
I honestly can't remember anymore, I use both since 15 years now or something, that's just my personal experience, I would have to dig myself now, too. :)
Maxim
are you really arguing about *fetches?
Arminio
I am though *runsforcover*
Pouria
Many of the IPv6 documents in the Handbook are outdated. I have updated some of them and hope they get noticed and committed soon.
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49782
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49781
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49780
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49779
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49778
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49777
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49770
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49769
Arminio
Arminio
Am I crazy or is 12 Watts just *way* too much on a T490s?
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Am I crazy or is 12 Watts just *way* too much on a T490s?
It maybe seems a bit much. Sorry to hear you are having that trouble
I've had issues making FreeBSD consume less power on my laptop. My main problem which could not be yet solved is making the CPU consume less frequency. On Linux it uses 400MHz, and on FreeBSD it uses 1400MHz. I am not an expert on this topic, but I think I remember when I installed a kernel driver (or a CPU microcode update?) on Linux, making something about "pstates" available, and that is what makes it consume less power
Arminio
It maybe seems a bit much. Sorry to hear you are having that trouble
I've had issues making FreeBSD consume less power on my laptop. My main problem which could not be yet solved is making the CPU consume less frequency. On Linux it uses 400MHz, and on FreeBSD it uses 1400MHz. I am not an expert on this topic, but I think I remember when I installed a kernel driver (or a CPU microcode update?) on Linux, making something about "pstates" available, and that is what makes it consume less power
There is „powerd“, which could in theory scale your CPU :)
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There is „powerd“, which could in theory scale your CPU :)
I've tried many things, but the minimum cpufreq still seems to be 1400MHz :(
polyduekes
I've tried many things, but the minimum cpufreq still seems to be 1400MHz :(
they are working on improvements on that aspects a lot very recently, you should check from time to time
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they are working on improvements on that aspects a lot very recently, you should check from time to time
That's what I read, FreeBSD is commited on improving the laptop experience. I saw a post around 6 months ago.
I haven't read how can I test and help haha. Do I need to install FreeBSD 15 and beta test it?
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
That's what I read, FreeBSD is commited on improving the laptop experience. I saw a post around 6 months ago.
I haven't read how can I test and help haha. Do I need to install FreeBSD 15 and beta test it?
rolling CURRENT is definitely the most direct way to test it, but beware of using it as a daily driver (:
polyduekes
That's what I read, FreeBSD is commited on improving the laptop experience. I saw a post around 6 months ago.
I haven't read how can I test and help haha. Do I need to install FreeBSD 15 and beta test it?
along with what nomad said keey an eye on the github page of freebsdfoundation https://github.com/orgs/FreeBSDFoundation/projects/1/views/4
polyduekes
yup
polyduekes
i read about it here
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Am I crazy or is 12 Watts just *way* too much on a T490s?
If you are interested, this is my current consumption on my laptop
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rolling CURRENT is definitely the most direct way to test it, but beware of using it as a daily driver (:
Haha, I am not afraid of being on bleeding edge :)
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The only thing that scares me, if I find a problem when using CURRENT is having to report it haha. I don't know where to do it, how to do it and people can be scary :(
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
The only thing that scares me, if I find a problem when using CURRENT is having to report it haha. I don't know where to do it, how to do it and people can be scary :(
FreeBSD's forums, mailing lists, IRC... as long as your reports provide helpful information, debugging logs, diagnosis, or similar, it shouldn't lead to scary comments as feedback. Often people confuses CURRENT with Rolling releases, then blames about stuff not working, which leads to uncomfortable moments and sharp feedback. CURRENT is meant for development, and prove-testing it with proper feedback content is always welcome ig
Antranig
for rolling release, you can use -STABLE. it’s rolling for 4 years 🙂
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
I dont see a need on running stable as a dayly driver and as a total equivalent to a regular rolling release linux distro
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
in my opinion it is a bad idea
Pouria
I dont see a need on running stable as a dayly driver and as a total equivalent to a regular rolling release linux distro
Depends on what you need.
In most of the cases RELEASE is enough.
about half of our servers are on STABLE and one of them is on CURRENT.
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
of course that will depend! I maybe for a machine with newe hardware it could be an option .. in my case quite a few servers have been running release for years without any issues
accelerat0r 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱
maybe my focus is I dont see the need on using stable nor current in a production server
Maxim
yeah: you need reasons to run -CURRENT
Михаил
current is the reason to release heat
Maxim
oh, that
Pouria
Monad
Helo everyone, I don't use FreeBSD but I use Gentoo.
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
is that a declaration of intent to start a fire? (:
Monad
No :c
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
hello and welcome
Monad
Oh k, thamk I did try FreeBSD but it works on one of my machines (a new thinkpad)
Artel
Helo everyone, I don't use FreeBSD but I use Gentoo.
Time to migrate to FreeBSD ASAP.
Why build packages on Gentoo, when you can do same and even better with FreeBSD & Poudriere?
polyduekes
Artel
Tho I would say that Gentoo is the most polished and stable system out of wide variety of linux distributions
Emp. Jasmine
Time to migrate to FreeBSD ASAP.
Why build packages on Gentoo, when you can do same and even better with FreeBSD & Poudriere?
hardware / software compatibility
Artel
hardware / software compatibility
Not an issue though. All my hardware supports FreeBSD, including WiFi 😏
Emp. Jasmine
doesn't mean it works for someone else's usage. Gaming for instance. Specialized hardware such are drawing tablets get drivers faster, etc
Emp. Jasmine
Linux is also works out of the box for most basic usecases and so if you just need to get something up fast and you're not that technical it's just easier. There's definitely usecases for Linux but when it comes to a tighter system, I do agree FreeBSD is better there but NixOS is pretty close too in that regard
Maxim
it highly depends on the user, tho
Maxim
I, for instance, find FreeBSD much, much easier to use than, say, any Linux distro in existence (trust me, I've seen a bunch of those)
polyduekes
I, for instance, find FreeBSD much, much easier to use than, say, any Linux distro in existence (trust me, I've seen a bunch of those)
this is what i can agree with, freebsd is so simpler to manage, troubleshoot, use then linux
Maxim
this is what i can agree with, freebsd is so simpler to manage, troubleshoot, use then linux
for you (and me), but my point is, it might not work for everyone else
Artel
The issue with Linux distributions is either too much investing in systemd ecosystem, or using defunct tooling such as NetworkManager.
I always find myself first thing doing when setting up server Linux is nuking NM and configuring systemd-networkd.