Baron
Rincewind
I think yes
Any probs
Baron
Guys a question about NFS, let say I'm sharing two directories in the same server.
/media/Share
/media/Backup
If I cp or MV a file from one directory to the other, from a client, where the CP|MV process happens? In the client or in the server?
Baron
Like, the file comes to the client from one directory and the client sent it to the other directory. Or the whole process happens inside the server?
bittin-
Listening to yesterdays episode now: https://www.bsdnow.tv/571
Guillermo
I guess is like that
Guillermo
Comes to the client and then client sends it to the server
Guillermo
Just because of the network
Guillermo
You are doing everything from the client
Guillermo
You are using its network
Kalei
Pffffffff
Kalei
https://thehackernews.com/2024/08/freebsd-releases-urgent-patch-for-high.html?m=1
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
oh, another one!
Flan
claws-mail is unusable on outlook given its libetpan is not compiled with SASL support
Andy 'm1m1n' Hidayat
https://repo.pitoe.net.id/ISO/mfsBSD/13.3-STABLE/m1m1n/
Andy 'm1m1n' Hidayat
try my custome kernel for Bhyve VM
John
If you are using NFS v4, it is possible at least in theory for a client to request a server side file copy without moving file contents over the network. Rename (mv) will happen on the server if both client and server think the old and new name are on the same filesystem.
Flan
page fault, fusefs to blame?
only changes
ran freebsd-update
started using sshfs/rclone mount
bittin-
https://www.bsdnow.tv/572
X
Asssassin
Eva
sure, no surprise there. the latest AMD EPYC and some Ryzen (depending on feature parity) CPUs are finally a bit closer to having sufficient coverage of the same extensions that Intel has pioneered, without having the total pain in the ass requirements of using AMD's proprietary CPU debug/profiling application (enterprise support only) which generally sucks for low level optimization work vs vTune and PCM tooling on Xeons
Eva
from my personal efforts on the topic, as an architect for pre-production hardware labs focused on analysis of Xeon vs EPYC (lots of performance engineering workloads), the general sentiment since at least Rome... is that while AMD SKUs are less expensive at the per-unit level, the required engineering staff hours that have needed to be dedicated to getting those chiplet designs working at least as well as the same generations of Xeons... well, those engineering hours add up over the years and rapidly consume 10s of millions of budget allocation. Xeons are better overall, and it's not as simple as running some simplistic Phoronix benchmarks.
Eva
management loves to look at a single spreadsheet and think they grasp the full impact of core component changes, that a single function can rapidly determine KPI effects just by looking at Row F, Column 12, or far worse - to listen to the vendor sales reps and take their metrics at face value without extensive validations and real world analysis. that's a recipe for failure, and many orgs were burned very badly by the EPYC assumptions... they're still getting burned by AMD's inclinations to just "Put more L2 and L3 cache on it!" in an unveiled attempt to cover up their NUMA design inefficiencies.
Eva
AMD is very good at marketing. they always have been, but they're always going to take second place in the not-even-best chip architecture race for global computing dominance. even their dedicated compiler (AOCC) shames itself against the abilities of Intel's ICC (ooh they're rebranded it to oneAPI :rolls_eyes:)
Kumamon
Maxim
only a directory
Kumamon
sad
Kumamon
thanks
X
Just upgraded my fbsd from 13.3-p5 to 14.0-p9. When running *pkg update && pkg upgrade* the following message appeared:
Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended.
Should i run this command?
Thank you.
Rincewind
Yes
You must
Aman
Anyone using FreeBSD command line only without a GUI?
Caos
Caos
I don't have any gui at all..just tty
Aman
Awesome which software do you use?
Aman
It's called VT in FreeBSD :)
Aman
I use tmux+Weechat mostly
Caos
But I'm thinking to install some window manager for browser
Caos
Like hyprland
Aman
I also use lynx for occasional times when someone sends an article or something
Aman
Have you ever used w3m? It's similar to lynx
Aman
Btw Telegram doesn't have a cli client for FreeBSD, the one I found is abandoned
SludgyWitch
just an honest and curious question - why would you want to use CLI only?
unless the machine is meant to be used as a server - there I understand using CLI only
Aman
Aman
Caos
SludgyWitch
right, gotcha
Aman
I am thinking about hosting a Telegram-IRC bot so I can connect to it using werchat
Aman
It's nice that Telegram allows us to make bot without charging money
Caos
Aman
WhatsApp is trash that everyone I know uses
Caos
Aman
Yeah sure I will make it open source for others to use
Aman
Caos
Aman
Lol
SludgyWitch
that's why many people use google or apple ecosystems - it's just convenient... why should they give a damn about the privacy aspects and self host nextcloud or at least buy some services from privacy conscious providers?
that would require effort and would not be convenient especially when google / apple has anything the usual person requires
Caos
Flan
sad that freebsd-rustdate exists, I mean, if freebsd-update takes that long, it can be remade in lua, all you need is stat and a hash, and oh look, flua already has hash.so
at least for the fetch subcommand
but I imagine the same can be done with the other ones
X
Krond
Always was interested how about Intel?
Krond
Actually have no idea why this is happening on Linux and what was the grave reason to make it so complicated. Just by looking how we can easily go with a quite simpler approach.
Rincewind
English please
haidar - love 🇲🇨🇵🇸
its mean BSD has same parent with linux ?
nope 😁
Aman
names in BSD are weird too TBH
Flan
Flan
Hermaeus Mora
And it's free/gratis
Cheese is only free/no cost in traps. This is something no mouse and very few people understand.
.
Krond
Krond
Ok, in your opinion, what would be the best approach to deal with Rust?
1. Put compiler in world.
2. Leave eveything Rust outside of world.
3. Split and customize world so that parts of it could be compiled with extra software installed from ports/packages.