it's benchmark and by data sir

like truenas base on freebsd, Netflix use FreeBSD, Sony Playstation and even MacOs was based on it

and whatsapp was use FreeBSD. CMIIW

yes there's plethora of Distro and zealot. Why not focus on major Distro instead of developing another Distro 😂

if you have to ask... ... well, it means you don't understand what the word secure in "secure by default" means. a better question would be "What apps do i use and how to they interact with the OS?" "Does the OS make assumption how a user would use it?"

Can you give the definition of "secure" to a non technical user(not a sysadmin or a tech guru)? Imho, secure by default means that OS will have less vulnerabilities/bugs and is hardened in order to protect the "stupid/dumb" user. Ofc, that all apps interact with the os. Any app can be and is a (potential) threat to the stability and security of the os.

For example, i used lynis on linux mint 21.1(hw), fedora 38 and opensuse tumbleweed(on a vm).The initial score for linux mint was iirc 50, fedora and opensuse 70. I also used lynis on a gbsd(vm) and the initial score was, iirc, 60. After modifying some params on all os the score improved.

So, imho, it's not all about what apps are we using on our computers and how those are interacting with the os

For example, i used lynis on linux mint 21.1(hw), fedora 38 and opensuse tumbleweed(on a vm).The initial score for linux mint was iirc 50, fedora and opensuse 70. I also used lynis on a gbsd(vm) and the initial score was, iirc, 60. After modifying some params on all os the score improved.

how about freebsd score?

Can you give the definition of "secure" to a non technical user(not a sysadmin or a tech guru)? Imho, secure by default means that OS will have less vulnerabilities/bugs and is hardened in order to protect the "stupid/dumb" user. Ofc, that all apps interact with the os. Any app can be and is a (potential) threat to the stability and security of the os.

It is all relative to the threat models you expect to have, and those are directly related with what you do with your computer, thus how it is exposed and which actors (by software you choose or by physical access) you let your machine being controlled by. "Secure by default" means that "sane" (read as coherent) defaults are provided for covering the generic usage intended by the developpers, which won't obviously fit all threat models users would be concerned by. In the other hand, too much harderned defaults would barely allow anything for a workstation connected to the network, at a caricatural point, such defaults would not even allow you to connect to any network because some compromised host could potentially try to hack you (which is not a very plausible path to targets inside a firewalled private network). In practice, security on UNIX can only be provided by the appropriate administration of the system, that requires revising default settings with the intended system uses cases. Because a lot of services and related configurations are available, a "Secure by defaut" system starts a minimal set of enabled features, an appropriate permission tree on the filesystems, mounting options, ressources limit and processes isolation for the services.

So using those defaults or not won't basically change anything for your usage at the two exception: - you enable and expose services on the WAN - you execute malicious software, in which case, you could have the best "security score" you want, it values 0 because you've ruined it

Also "Secure by default" does not mean someone non-experienced should connect his systems to the WAN and think "everything is secure" because this will obviously lead to an uncontrolled exposition of the systems and networks attached to them.

Can you give the definition of "secure" to a non technical user(not a sysadmin or a tech guru)? Imho, secure by default means that OS will have less vulnerabilities/bugs and is hardened in order to protect the "stupid/dumb" user. Ofc, that all apps interact with the os. Any app can be and is a (potential) threat to the stability and security of the os.

secure by default means that your pc is not powered on and you need to press a button to switch it on

how about freebsd score?

GhostBSD is a simple, elegant, and friendly BSD operating system for desktops and laptops based on FreeBSD. GhostBSD is a slow-rolling release while some GNU/Linux distros are on the bleeding edge side; we tried to offer a stable update and release cycle. The official desktop environment is MATE. The system comes with a graphical application to install software and update your system. Most codecs to play multimedia files are pre-installed. The installer leverages OpenZFS makes it easy to install and is suitable for newcomers to BSD. With modest hardware requirements, GhostBSD is ideal for modern workstations and 64-bit single-board computer hardware.

lol

https://itsfoss.com/netflix-freebsd-cdn/

i don't enjoy netflix. maybe because it doesn't run on freebsd? who do i send my complaint to?

Freebsd on Z83 Mini PC

windows2000 ssh to freebsd?

windows2000 ssh to freebsd?

nope =)

Love this retro window theme

Love this retro window theme

I use Trisquel with a Windows 95 style theme

👍🏻

I'm kinda shocked that someone doesn't just develop a script that will do all the desktop stuff without a new "distro" in Linux terms but truly without a new OS managed by a group that isn't Freebsd. I know about the x script... that's cool but really... why not a script that will do the stuff to stock freebsd?

Hi, anyone using freebsd on a thinkpad t14? Can share the experience of use, specifically in the use of battery?

where's libreboot user!

I'm kinda shocked that someone doesn't just develop a script that will do all the desktop stuff without a new "distro" in Linux terms but truly without a new OS managed by a group that isn't Freebsd. I know about the x script... that's cool but really... why not a script that will do the stuff to stock freebsd?

Yeah. You will be shocked that people decide what to do with their free time. Maybe a script is not enough and it has to be a distro/fork

I think those "scripts" one day became the popular and well integrated/packaged DE's we have today

When I was youger I was thinking, wow, that flashy red and blue fvwm default config on openbsd can only appeal for customization. At the end people use what they prefer when they prefer and this varies alot...

When I was youger I was thinking, wow, that flashy red and blue fvwm default config on openbsd can only appeal for customization. At the end people use what they prefer when they prefer and this varies alot...

as I am lazy I've just switched it to cwm and wrote a config that match my habits and voilà, I don't really need more stuff if I use OpenBSD on a laptop

on a workstation I like to use the mouse alot for window gestures, cause sometimes I'm just lazy to bring my two hands to the keyboard, so I don't like environments with poor mouse handling, but that just how I am used to do

I'm kinda shocked that someone doesn't just develop a script that will do all the desktop stuff without a new "distro" in Linux terms but truly without a new OS managed by a group that isn't Freebsd. I know about the x script... that's cool but really... why not a script that will do the stuff to stock freebsd?

just write your own scrpit with ansible or whatever...

Ansible could be used. My point was to say just make a robust script or config and use it to offer all the options for a DE.

Ansible could be used. My point was to say just make a robust script or config and use it to offer all the options for a DE.

then go make a ro9bust script with all options oh wait. you want others to do the work for you. lol

is there a problem with sysutils/desktop-installer? I personally don't like some of its defaults, but it does work.

on a workstation I like to use the mouse alot for window gestures, cause sometimes I'm just lazy to bring my two hands to the keyboard, so I don't like environments with poor mouse handling, but that just how I am used to do

I'm liking hikari for its keyboard central focus. I'm not a big mouse user.

is there a problem with sysutils/desktop-installer? I personally don't like some of its defaults, but it does work.

Does it use Wayland now?

I've used desktop-installer some time back but haven't with my framework laptop because I wanted Wayland.

I'm also on a framework 13, X11/i3wm is fine for my needs.

Framework 13 as well. I remember you talking about it on another group.

What's your overall feeling on those laptops (framework) could that be a thinkpad rival?

mixed feelings... I wish bluetooth worked. the iwlwifi has come a long way (I'm tempted to load CURRENT again, but am currently on 13.2-RELEASE) from "always crashing, I guess I'll run wifibox" to "stable and usable but pretty slow". Design and build quality is pretty darned good, though many whine about the hinges.

Jeff is having much of the same experience I am having. Hinges aren't good but the rest is great quality. Freebsd is snappy on hikari but unstable when I put it to sleep with zzz and wake it, sometime wifi will not come back or it does and just powers off 30 mins later. Battery life stinks on freebsd. I think the drivers are not stable or something. I'd rather tolerate the quirks than go back to popos/unbuntu.

yeah, sleep is a mess.

secure by default means that your pc is not powered on and you need to press a button to switch it on

kekekekkekeekkeke, so true

The true freebsd experience

The true freebsd experience

😂

jokin

lol. but is so similar to fbsd in terms of userland and init

wtf is it

If anyone is using freebsd on a framwaork laptop (like myself) this link... https://xyinn.org/md/freebsd/framework_laptop

They did a great job of stating hardware facts.

Are you not able to attend the European *BSD event of the year? 😈⛳🐡 There are now live stream links on the program page. TL;DR Auditorio (Track 1): https://eurobsdcon-player.secdn.net/theatre/e655cbaa-7924-421f-850f-c85c9f30539f ; VLC: https://eurobsdcon-hls.secdn.net/eurobsdcon-channel/play/EuroBSDcon_Auditorio_Out.smil/playlist.m3u8 C-7 (Track2): https://eurobsdcon-player.secdn.net/theatre/fb0ced0a-0486-4f1b-b9ca-4d2cfa67c7ad ; VLC: https://eurobsdcon-hls.secdn.net/eurobsdcon-channel/play/EuroBSDcon_SalaC_7_Out.smil/playlist.m3u8 C-13 (Track 3) https://eurobsdcon-player.secdn.net/theatre/50046d4d-9c9c-474d-bf23-60bf13fcd38d VLC: https://eurobsdcon-hls.secdn.net/eurobsdcon-channel/play/EuroBSDcon_SalaC_13_Out.smil/playlist.m3u8 https://2023.eurobsdcon.org/program/

I read the scanf("%ms", mycharpointer) m conversion modifier in glibc is a nonstandard gnu extension. How would you read Variable length strings without it? Will scanf fail with ENOMEM if i try to scan a string thats longer than my preallocated buffer? Or do i just have to know an upper bound of my string? Further research lead me to believe that it is indeed part of the posix standard https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/fscanf.html, but not of ISO c? Despite the linked page seemingto claim that it is just from said ISO c standard

why there's pyramid and one eye

can i land some dots?

Anyone using on thinkpad T14 AMD Gen 2? I would like to know if wifi, Bluetooth, Webcam, microphone anda sounds works fine. My use is essentially to do online meetings in meet and communication throughout slack and teams, using 2 external monitors. Beside that, I use some Linux apps like obsidian to take notes. Any experience to share?

Bluetooth wont work on bsd

It requires you alb of knowledges to get it working

any powerpc u-boot user? i wanna porting a ppc device on freebsd

#!/bin/sh INTERNET_STATUS=$(ping -c 3 google.com | grep 'received' | awk -F',' '{ print $2 }' | awk '{ print $1 }') if [ $INTERNET_STATUS -eq 0 ]; then # Internet down, kirim notifikasi ke Telegram TELEGRAM_BOT_TOKEN="YOUR_BOT_TOKEN" CHAT_ID="YOUR_CHAT_ID" MESSAGE="Koneksi Internet Terputus pada pfSense!" curl -s -X POST https://api.telegram.org/bot$TELEGRAM_BOT_TOKEN/sendMessage -d chat_id=$CHAT_ID -d text="$MESSAGE" fi I made a script for internet not available notifications, can this run normally?

Windows leader Panos Panay is leaving Microsoft

Intel Shows Off Work on Next-Gen Glass Core Substrates, Plans Deployment Later in Decade https://m.slashdot.org/story/419188

Windows leader Panos Panay is leaving Microsoft

I thought setya nadella, the CEO

I thought setya nadella, the CEO

😂 nope

I thought setya nadella, the CEO

He is. The guy mentioned above is the cpo

Anyone knows if Orange Pi 3b is supported?

who use dnsmasq?

who use dnsmasq?

what's the glitch?

nice drawing X elon 😁

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/9/20/we-have-successfully-completed-our-migration-to-ram-only-vpn-infrastructure/

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/09/19/2216251/long-term-support-for-linux-kernel-to-be-cut-as-maintenance-remains-under-strain

https://www.osnews.com/story/137162/openbsd-arm64-on-hetzner-cloud/

They did a great job of stating hardware facts.

Nice find, Chad. I'll definitely try a few tidbits in that review.

Also Northgard unveil(2)'d on OpenBSD

MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/home/kp/kp/freebsd/tools/build/make.py --bootstrap-toolchain buildworld TARGET=amd64 TARGET_ARCH=amd64 zsh: command not found: --bootstrap-toolchain i was trying to build freebsd on linux and i'm getting this error