Newer ones are unlikely to work 100% some chips require drivers and firmware to be ported

How does one select a laptop, preferably newer ones, that would support freebsd?

Thinkpad laptops are fine. You can search online for a guide. Or check wiki i read somewhere they have a list laptop installed with freebsd.

Thinkpad laptops are fine. You can search online for a guide. Or check wiki i read somewhere they have a list laptop installed with freebsd.

Indeed, Thinkpads are one of the best devices to use FreeBSD in

Thanks

imho Thinpads are excellent in many regards

Another q : usually upgrading to major versions, say 13, the drivers are supported mostly? Or is it frequently the case that you might discover something not working after major upgrade?

and in the past I loved dell latitudes for linux stuff

Another q : usually upgrading to major versions, say 13, the drivers are supported mostly? Or is it frequently the case that you might discover something not working after major upgrade?

I mean for a system already working fine with say 12.x

use ports. /usr/ports/deskutils/anydesk

Already tried that

Another q : usually upgrading to major versions, say 13, the drivers are supported mostly? Or is it frequently the case that you might discover something not working after major upgrade?

usually not the case, unless you have some museum hardware, like i386

au contraire, you might expect that something that wasn't working wil start to work

is someone here that is having anydesk installed ?

yeah

now ask if it's working :)

:))

is it working ? :D

au contraire, you might expect that something that wasn't working wil start to work

Great, thanks. Was thinking of upgrading to 13 stable

is it working ? :D

:) nope. dunnow why. haven't had lot of time to investigate. I mean it's launching and showing it's window. seems even to handshake to the server and tries to authenticate, but then timeouts.

wasn't able to get the picture of the machine I'm connecting to. had to access from within the Windows VM in bhyve running on the same host (which basically tells us that network wasn't the issue)

How does one select a laptop, preferably newer ones, that would support freebsd?

usually you chose the laptop which contains minimum of devices that definitely won't work, so... it's not the "laptop where FreeBSD will support ecerything", but "laptop where only some inavoidable minimum won't be supported".

usually you chose the laptop which contains minimum of devices that definitely won't work, so... it's not the "laptop where FreeBSD will support ecerything", but "laptop where only some inavoidable minimum won't be supported".

Is there a way/site to keep track of such devices and their support?

so it definitely shouldn't comprise fancy touchpads devices with multitouch, exotic card readers (most are fine though), fingerprint readers (probably wont work but you shoudl check) and since every laptop nowadays contains videocamera - you should check it. and of course the hardware check should start from deciding "what videoboard does it contain and does FreeBSD know about it"

https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops

@startrekked this wiki page shows the devices list

Is there a way/site to keep track of such devices and their support?

not really. you'll have to search the community and decide who to trust, because "working just fine" reviews can in reality differ from "really working like a charm" to "okay, dmesg sees it and even loaded some driver but that's pretty much all"

so it definitely shouldn't comprise fancy touchpads devices with multitouch, exotic card readers (most are fine though), fingerprint readers (probably wont work but you shoudl check) and since every laptop nowadays contains videocamera - you should check it. and of course the hardware check should start from deciding "what videoboard does it contain and does FreeBSD know about it"

Hmm ok

@startrekked this wiki page shows the devices list

that's what I'm talking about. half of this list is some necrohardware from the past. I mean - where you can find 10 years old laptops, on e-bay ?

Too much pain to search then :(

Hmm ok

if it isn't a project of intereset to you - I mean - "getting laptop that runs FreeBSD", I'd get some decent mac

this way you will get some decent hardware, Unix, ssh out of the box, no Windows and this will be it.

FreeBSD on a latop is more of some geekish thing kind

a nice experinence of course, unless it interferes with your work

FreeBSD on a latop is more of some geekish thing kind

Yea that's cool I think. That's why freebsd

a nice experinence of course, unless it interferes with your work

Unfortunately, yes.

"I'm on the road and suddenly discovered that cable tethering doesn't work and wifi adapter isn't fully supported, so I'm getting a trap when trying to run wpa_supplicant. What's really bad - is that that USB dongle I have doesn't fit to FreeBSD, and I have 2 DC that I have to repair/diagnose " - stuff like that

Haha yes can be a pain, but once you get it set up then usually works without much issues

Anyone uses xmonad here?

true, but this can be a long story :)

:) nope. dunnow why. haven't had lot of time to investigate. I mean it's launching and showing it's window. seems even to handshake to the server and tries to authenticate, but then timeouts.

"cool".

no, definitely not cool :)

no, definitely not cool :)

I totally agree

I just hope that all the issues with anydesk will be fixed soon

me too.

Is there a way/site to keep track of such devices and their support?

Try here; https://bsd-hardware.info You can submit your own laptop report by using the command hw-probe -all -upload

Try here; https://bsd-hardware.info You can submit your own laptop report by using the command hw-probe -all -upload

Thanks, will remember to check it out

No problem. hw-probe may need to be installed from pkgs though. Although I said laptop, I don't think it's limited to laptops

Cool. So I guess it would probably be best to check the laptop one wants to consider buying against the probes performed. Hoping there's a match.

Already tried that

Does anyone know, how to reset VirtualBox's Host-Key (Ctrl-right) on a FreeBSD-Host back to default, once it has been changed? I tried a VBoxManage-command (like setextradata host key=...) but that doesn't work. getextradata displays 'no host-key', although I defined an alternative one in VBoxGUI. Problem of VBoxGUI is: it doesn't accept the 'Ctrl-right' key stroke for some funny reason. Has anyone an explanation?

yep, You can search by BSD OS, laptop or even specific components. It will tell you its status as to driver support and whether it works or not

So what's your 1-2 freebsd hacks/things that make you stay with freebsd and stick with it?

Should be interesting to exchange views

So what's your 1-2 freebsd hacks/things that make you stay with freebsd and stick with it?

Their system architecture and its stability

Their system architecture and its stability

That's very broad - how do you use that to your advantage or get a kick out of using freebsd?

hp 2k notebook ( $100 from pawn shop) 13-386 runs great, wifi even found and works, expect 64 bit to do as well.

Got one weird issue with ZFS, might be someone familiar with that. Bought new drive, Toshiba 4TB P300. Drive works fine, except with ZFS, any operations are slow as shit, full resilver - up to 7 days. Direct writes to the same partition all fine. No errors, no SMART hints, drive appears to be busy all of the time.

а) NFS ? b) zpool list shows capacity over 85% (or even 95%) ?

I think I found an answer. All other devices had ^9 blocks, and new one was ^12, trying to replace with ^12.

Being dumb is so extremely easy…

well though improper sector size can impact performance, in reality it's not THAT catastrophic

I think I found an answer. All other devices had ^9 blocks, and new one was ^12, trying to replace with ^12.

Could you link to a document that might help me understand this?

Hello everyone, Do you have some experience with SSD provoking missing interrupt message? I try to install it on a newer laptop with a Samsung 980 pro, and during installation I’m having this message

I think my problem is triggered with RAIDZ. All previous vdevs are using ^9 (512B) blocks, and new device is using ^12 (4K) block, with support for ^9 mode. But that means that all stored data is already stored in smaller sections and it will not be adjusted while moving to other drive triggering multiple 4k operations instead of multiple ^9 operations, wasting bandwidth.

Runninng FreeBSD ufs geli full disk encryption disk usage issue in qemu/kvm virtual machine allocated full of 1 terabyte vmdk disk file

Anyone know how to update port tree? https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/guide-using-git-to-manage-ports-source-and-documentation.79721/

Anyone know how to update port tree? https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/guide-using-git-to-manage-ports-source-and-documentation.79721/

would that be in a general upgrade

Wait, it was not working, but now somehow show no error when i run git pull

Oke my questions is how to put temporary ports back to /usr/ports ?

do pkg update.. pkg upgrade if they are in there already

or you have to do pkg install ports ........ then WAIT

do pkg update.. pkg upgrade if they are in there already

My /usr/ports took no effects still i give me error

what error

you root ?

Anyone know how to update port tree? https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/guide-using-git-to-manage-ports-source-and-documentation.79721/

Fatal not git repository or any parent up to mount point /usr GIT_DISCOVERY_ACROSS_FILESYSTEM not set

So i am following that guide, i cant run git pull with existing /usr/ports

Now i have temporary folder for ports, and i want new ports replace the old /usr/ports

you do know the ports are just a load of make files .... right?

you do know the ports are just a load of make files .... right?

Ya so i can just copy my temporary ports folder to /usr/ports?

you can try that why idk i think i would do a upgrade to get the latest.

aand the ports you got to compile those