Yes, i have 6GB ram, 1.8ghz quad and 1TB HHD so it was slow with ZFS, UFS is much faster in my case

Weird.. Is that 1TB 7200 rpm sata? I guess ZFS is super fast only on SSD/NVMe drives..

Weird.. Is that 1TB 7200 rpm sata? I guess ZFS is super fast only on SSD/NVMe drives..

I am just a regular user who learns what i need to get my work done so I'm not sure, maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could elaborate and give you some facts. I have read there are performance improvements you can do with ZFS. I think someone in this group shared a link yes

Yes, i have 6GB ram, 1.8ghz quad and 1TB HHD so it was slow with ZFS, UFS is much faster in my case

well ZFS does have some overhead...

Is ufs good for physical and zfs for virtual?

Virtual what?

Is ufs good for physical and zfs for virtual?

Unless you need the features ZFS provides, use UFS

I alredy did and many of the reviews of FreeBSD over Linux generally don't mention the desktop side of it, or recommend Linux distros over FreeBSD on desktop due to more wide app support, so <ıI wanted to ask here to pc fbsd users about their views.

Because honestly desktop really doesn't matter, its the same software on whatever operating system its installed on, libreoffice won't turn into Microsoft office if you install it on FreeBSD Under the hood is where FreeBSD really shines, desktop is irrelevant

Because honestly desktop really doesn't matter, its the same software on whatever operating system its installed on, libreoffice won't turn into Microsoft office if you install it on FreeBSD Under the hood is where FreeBSD really shines, desktop is irrelevant

no it's not "irrelevant". a multipurpose os should be able to run both on workstations and servers. however the only think that freebsd is lacking in terms of desktop usage is that it's wifi is limited to only n and many wifi cards don't have a driver. but as long as you can live with slow wifi and have compatible hardware there aren't that many other issues...

well ZFS does have some overhead...

Overhead is almost like network latency just for HDD if i can compare? You are allowed to laugh i know nothing😅

Overhead is almost like network latency just for HDD if i can compare? You are allowed to laugh i know nothing😅

Not really, network latency and filesystem performance are completely different paradigms

ZFS is inherently more complex than your traditional filesystems, so naturally its resource consumption is going to be higher

http://www.aros.org/ An operating system compatible to Amiga OS

oh yeah install me baby

what a weird logo

http://www.aros.org/ An operating system compatible to Amiga OS

tha who?

what is amigo?

oh yeah install me baby

Yeah now I get why /g/ says only furries use it

Not really, network latency and filesystem performance are completely different paradigms

I need to put time aside to learn these types of things. I'm never going to use it but knowledge is always useful sometimes

Yeah now I get why /g/ says only furries use it

/g/ says a lot of stupid things.

oh yeah install me baby

I laughed loud to this.

/g/ says a lot of stupid things.

but ultimately, are they wrong or right? it's not like there isn't any veracity to this claim....

but ultimately, are they wrong or right? it's not like there isn't any veracity to this claim....

I don't care about 4chan...

/g/ says "Hurr durr, Linux is too mainstream, am gonna install FreeBSD" too 🙄

what is amigo?

Commodore Amiga

bonk!

"I've been a bad process"

/g/ says "Hurr durr, Linux is too mainstream, am gonna install FreeBSD" too 🙄

/g/ says "Hurr durr, FreeBSD is too mainstream, am gonna install OpenBSD" too 🙄

/g/ says "Hurr durr, FreeBSD is too mainstream, am gonna install OpenBSD" too 🙄

Yes

i liked the legacy style better

This kind of things fit in the ot room (:

This kind of things fit in the ot room (:

okay

okay

Thanks

what SSH daemon do you guys recommend to use?

OpenSSH

OpenSSH

+

maybe a dropbear or something for embedded systems, but personnally I always loved the OpenSSH quality and functionnality.. agreed it's not the thinnest thing but it's carefully made

what SSH daemon do you guys recommend to use?

bruh

i'm heaving a deja vu lol

i'm heaving a deja vu lol

haha, I think he just like making discussions, that's fine

maybe a dropbear or something for embedded systems, but personnally I always loved the OpenSSH quality and functionnality.. agreed it's not the thinnest thing but it's carefully made

this And OpenSSH comes from OpenBSD originally, so it's probably well comprehensible code

this And OpenSSH comes from OpenBSD originally, so it's probably well comprehensible code

yeah, openssh quality is according to people quite good, and also in benchmarks its crypto routines beat competitor's

(in terms of speed)

OK off topic:: anyone root an android 10 phone?

OK off topic:: anyone root an android 10 phone?

@freebsd_offtopics

guess i best not hold my breath on this one.

Hello everyone! 👋😊So a while back i had this issue where my FreeBSD install would restart when loading the graphics driver and then proceeds to start up normally. I solved it by turning off SSH in rc.conf, i tried to google for a better understanding but found nothing, how are they related or was it just SSH all the way?

what SSH daemon do you guys recommend to use?

Just standard openssh sshd

Its default on all BSDs

what SSH daemon do you guys recommend to use?

The current one is old and vulnerable.. I'd suggest you the one in pkg. See:

https://ozgurkazancci.com/ssh-server-security-audit-hardening-freebsd/

Hello everyone! 👋😊So a while back i had this issue where my FreeBSD install would restart when loading the graphics driver and then proceeds to start up normally. I solved it by turning off SSH in rc.conf, i tried to google for a better understanding but found nothing, how are they related or was it just SSH all the way?

Weird..🤔

Weird..🤔

I promise you😅i shared the rc.conf and everything 😊

Hello everyone! 👋😊So a while back i had this issue where my FreeBSD install would restart when loading the graphics driver and then proceeds to start up normally. I solved it by turning off SSH in rc.conf, i tried to google for a better understanding but found nothing, how are they related or was it just SSH all the way?

Woah that's really stupid. I think that there is just stupid bug in ssh or the driver

Woah that's really stupid. I think that there is just stupid bug in ssh or the driver

Might be, i am very proud of myself for fixing it on my own though😁😎

Might be, i am very proud of myself for fixing it on my own though😁😎

Is nice

Is nice

Luck was on my side😎

The current one is old and vulnerable.. I'd suggest you the one in pkg. See:

it's not a bug, it's an enterprise feature for businesses

it's not a bug, it's an enterprise feature for businesses

Wut?

Hi, does anyone use clash from pkg? Mine crashed upon launching in terminal, didn't remember the output but it was related to go. Can someone confirm it so I can file a PR?

I downloaded binary from GitHub and it worked just fine. https://github.com/Dreamacro/clash/releases

Wut?

they left the old version in due to "compatibility" because they have many "enterprise" users. who cares about security when you make money?

they left the old version in due to "compatibility" because they have many "enterprise" users. who cares about security when you make money?

Sad story...

😔..

Anyone installed FreeBSD on top of linux/ubuntu? I need bit help with installation steps

on top?

on a vm u mean?

@aci686 dual boot.

that's not 'on top' for me LOL

That's dual boot

I mean I have PepperMint OS on my HDD

that's hw share

I mean I have PepperMint OS on my HDD

What are you going to do, one HDD per OS, or both OSes in the same HDD?

Both is same

Both is same

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/boot/#boot-introduction https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/309964/installing-freebsd-alongside-linux

I have had serious arguments with debian while doing this 🤔

Maybe reFind can help with the task

thanks @n0madcoder

@n0madcoder is that legal here?

or should i send it in ot?

@unixmann the purpose of this chat is to stay FreeBSD related so people that want to share knowledge about it, or ask some technical questions can do it similar to irc. While I don't like to restrict every action out of that context, it's true that some users may like to keep this room tidy. Posting memes from time to time while related to FreeBSD is not a problem, unless it becomes a daily dose