usermin webmin ?

GUI? Drive management? Apples? Pears?

I meant partition, like gparted or gnome-disks, The man pages helped i could understand how to use gpart and mkfs

These are also the type of things i want to know, if you would like to share bookmarks and links with me it would be great

Ooooooof, well the way I found myself through the BSD world was adapting my mindset, afterall. For example, BSD ls doesn't even have —group-directories-first, and before you look, no BSD ls doesn't have a single letter option that replicates this. That's a total no-go for my personal taste, and the reason I use coreutils ls on literally all BSD and macOS computers I have.

That's really a complete horror for me, I use that option all the time.

usermin webmin ?

ALLmin

I meant partition, like gparted or gnome-disks, The man pages helped i could understand how to use gpart and mkfs

Gnome-Disks? Use a goddamn terminal emulator.

Force yourself. You'll learn something for good. :)

Gnome-Disks? Use a goddamn terminal emulator.

I did haha, looks like "practice makes perfect" is applicable to FreeBSD, the only way

I did haha, looks like "practice makes perfect" is applicable to FreeBSD, the only way

Yeah you'll do it 35 times or so, 34 times you'll fail, but the 35th attempt is the one your mind should pay attention to.

The thing is: if you can do it from the command line, you CAN automate it, period.

Force yourself. You'll learn something for good. :)

My first week has had it's ups and downs but i have learned to fix things without reinstalling. probably 1 whole day of troubleshooting, reading and understanding. Very satisfying when you eventually fix an issue and understand what caused the problem

My first week has had it's ups and downs but i have learned to fix things without reinstalling. probably 1 whole day of troubleshooting, reading and understanding. Very satisfying when you eventually fix an issue and understand what caused the problem

Well FreeBSD is known to have THE awesome community, if you have questions, people are there for you.

Well FreeBSD is known to have THE awesome community, if you have questions, people are there for you.

I had ALOT of help yes!😅command line courses too if there exists, understanding shells and such.

I had ALOT of help yes!😅command line courses too if there exists, understanding shells and such.

Yea if you need any help with BASH or ZSH, don't hesitate to DM me.

Yea if you need any help with BASH or ZSH, don't hesitate to DM me.

Wow thanks! yes i'm no dev and only do basic IT repairs and resell. i have been using FOSS software for about 12+/- years. Started on Novell Suse 10.1 and exclusively used gnu/linux for desktop but never minded to learn CLI. I'll ask you if i really burn, also any useful links i could study would be awesome, just DM😊

Wow thanks! yes i'm no dev and only do basic IT repairs and resell. i have been using FOSS software for about 12+/- years. Started on Novell Suse 10.1 and exclusively used gnu/linux for desktop but never minded to learn CLI. I'll ask you if i really burn, also any useful links i could study would be awesome, just DM😊

Well I don't have a school degree or something, I used to just get drunk all day back then....

O'Reilly did books. search like bittorrent

Well I don't have a school degree or something, I used to just get drunk all day back then....

Resell & repair was my first job, i am an amateur boxer in Namibia, all my hobbies are far away from anything IT related

My father is a professor at a university (last year he has to work right now lol), I'm just that poor decayed worthless human being who happened to have a deep dive into UNIX in the late 90s.

I'm actually just a mechatronics engineer but I didn't work a single day as such.

My first version of FreeBSD I installed was FreeBSD 4.1

My father is a professor at a university (last year he has to work right now lol), I'm just that poor decayed worthless human being who happened to have a deep dive into UNIX in the late 90s.

If i just discovered FreeBSD 10 years earlier😅

O'Reilly did books. search like bittorrent

Thanks man will have a look

If i just discovered FreeBSD 10 years earlier😅

For me it was somewhen around 1999 or so

For me it was somewhen around 1999 or so

There is no substitute for experience😊

There is no substitute for experience😊

It's not exactly experience if all you did was LIVE with the OS you have because it was the smallest possible amount of pain. And seriously, FreeBSD has always been my fallback OS for the last 20 years or so. If I need something I understand, FreeBSD all the way.

And I'm not even some experienced FreeBSD user or something, it just happened to work for me for more than 2 decades.

OK off topic again:: anyone have a copy of debian 4.0 Etch ?

4.0

yup

It's not exactly experience if all you did was LIVE with the OS you have because it was the smallest possible amount of pain. And seriously, FreeBSD has always been my fallback OS for the last 20 years or so. If I need something I understand, FreeBSD all the way.

I see, I just jumped in. I have no OS dual-booted or such that can help me. I figure it is the best way and i have been doing all my daily work on FreeBSD. There are some challenges yes but as you said, have to change mindset and way of doing things. All in all i have enjoyed the experience

What the HELL are you trying to do

i got an OLD 32 bit machine.

I see, I just jumped in. I have no OS dual-booted or such that can help me. I figure it is the best way and i have been doing all my daily work on FreeBSD. There are some challenges yes but as you said, have to change mindset and way of doing things. All in all i have enjoyed the experience

Linux with systemd has just way too much of indirection going on, FreeBSD has always been down to the bone, you can strip down any problem to just one, not many.

and it the ONE iso missing from my archives

Let's face it, FreeBSD isn't perfect, especially the BSD "coreutils" annoy me pretty much, but it's still such a reasonable choice - it gives me some kind of mental freedom, I automatically enter a relaxed state when logging into some FreeBSD computer.

Linux with systemd has just way too much of indirection going on, FreeBSD has always been down to the bone, you can strip down any problem to just one, not many.

With Linux there are like 30 tools to do one job, THAT confuses the hell out of me to learn all that stuff. FreeBSD has 1 tool for 1 job and it does it properly, atleast that's what i have gathered from my own experience.

With Linux there are like 30 tools to do one job, THAT confuses the hell out of me to learn all that stuff. FreeBSD has 1 tool for 1 job and it does it properly, atleast that's what i have gathered from my own experience.

1 isn't right, FreeBSD has 15 or so when Linux has 30.

But yeah, you're right. There's a trivial way to solve a problem, why adjust the problem in question?

1 isn't right, FreeBSD has 15 or so when Linux has 30.

I was making an example😊It's simpler for a regular person to understand

I have to go to bed now it's like 03:00, thanks for your input @netzverweigerer @downhillflyer I appreciate it😊

I was making an example😊It's simpler for a regular person to understand

Well I'm known to first install bash, htop, vim and whatnot on a fresh FreeBSD installation. And seriously, the default shell is just bollocks.

Well I'm known to first install bash, htop, vim and whatnot on a fresh FreeBSD installation. And seriously, the default shell is just bollocks.

I just use fish because the colour schemes and themes are nice😊Other than that a full desktop system, Quick screenshot before i shut my eyes😁

I just use fish because the colour schemes and themes are nice😊Other than that a full desktop system, Quick screenshot before i shut my eyes😁

Well the best ouf-of-the-box-experience I usually had with OpenBox and XFCE.

Oh and maybe i3.

Well the best ouf-of-the-box-experience I usually had with OpenBox and XFCE.

Mate😊

Nice!👌🏻

https://i.imgur.com/1VKXufe.png

https://i.imgur.com/1VKXufe.png

This looks sick!

You run WM's exlusively?

You run WM's exlusively?

I don't understand that question, can you be more specific?

😊

Ok I believe I just run too many operating systems

I don't understand that question, can you be more specific?

Like do you only i3, dwm etc? I tried once but it seems hard if your not familiar with keybindings and setting up configs

Like do you only i3, dwm etc? I tried once but it seems hard if your not familiar with keybindings and setting up configs

I use whatever I feel comfortable with, i3 and awesomeWM are fine, dwm yea ok why not, but these things are really all about customization of keybindings, if you don't do that, they're completely pointless.

Ok I believe I just run too many operating systems

This is true!😂The most i ran at one time was 2 i think? it was Void Linux on my main pc and FreeBSD on my Acer Aspire

This is true!😂The most i ran at one time was 2 i think? it was Void Linux on my main pc and FreeBSD on my Acer Aspire

I wrote some XBPS wrapper back then

https://github.com/netzverweigerer/vpm/blob/master/vpm

I use whatever I feel comfortable with, i3 and awesomeWM are fine, dwm yea ok why not, but these things are really all about customization of keybindings, if you don't do that, they're completely pointless.

The theming and aesthetics on WM's look better than those on DE's, maybe more flexible to tinker

The theming and aesthetics on WM's look better than those on DE's, maybe more flexible to tinker

I don't care at all, it's just technical purpose for me. Sometimes OpenBox just works while XFCE doesn't.

https://github.com/netzverweigerer/vpm/blob/master/vpm

NIce, I tried Python once, wrote a Madlibs then my interest in it disapeared

I don't care at all, it's just technical purpose for me. Sometimes OpenBox just works while XFCE doesn't.

I see, well have a good day/evening.😊

NIce, I tried Python once, wrote a Madlibs then my interest in it disapeared

Well I write a lot of these questionable things... https://codeberg.org/armin/salis/src/branch/master/salis

That one is just to prove that you can trivially install Arch with just one single command without any user interaction whatsoever

nice

https://codeberg.org/armin/salis/src/branch/master/salis

oh

sry, brain malfunction

neat

Anyone have experience with hellosystem? Is it just a re skinned version of vanilla FreeBSD or is it a proper fork? I’m running into difficulties with configuring FreeBSD on desktop with XFCE (coming from Debian), e.g. lightDM not running properly, hardware doesn’t seem to be optimized, lagging. I’m thinking something like hellosystem with better out of the box config might suit me. I tried GhostBSD, but in my experience it was just as laggy as my FreeBSD install with XFCE, plus I didn’t want most of the added default packages.

A it ain't ready for prime time

Gotcha. Has it had a proper release or is it still in beta

dk dc till they fix it.