Hardcode
still is
Jackie
I did read something about not using zfs swap, yes
Hardcode
well, it's not decent
Hardcode
I mean swap on zfs
Jackie
but I don't quite understand all that so I just decided to make a separate swap partition
Hardcode
but could work for ya - as I said - it's a laptop, not a server
Jackie
Is there a way to backup my ZFS system quickly now and I boot into liveCD, re-create partiotion, and recover the backup?
Jackie
only asking since they all say ZFS snapshot function rocks
Anonymous
Anonymous
this is ghost in a VM
Jackie
yeah, I know it runs alright. Just may not be a good choice for me give my machine specs.
Anonymous
be brave
Anonymous
if ya can get total mem to 4g that be great
Jackie
I know it'll be so laggy since I can barely run Chrome😂
Anonymous
guess windows just has to go
Anonymous
story time: i got this machine at a pawn shop for $100 4g ram dualcore 450 hd intel graphics realtek sound
Anonymous
Is ZFS really worth the complications you guys are going through?
Not hating on ZFS, but I swear half the problems people ask in this group are either directly or indirectly related to ZFS
Krond
Wanna hear different problems?
Krond
Crap, my var is just half gig smaller, years passed and now I can't fit in it anymore.
Krond
Crap, my disk is just half-gig, why fsck takes so long?
Krond
Crap, I hit reset again, now I need to find empty files everywhere.
Anonymous
Crap, my var is just half gig smaller, years passed and now I can't fit in it anymore.
What was the reason for separating /var in the first place?
Krond
There comes an other side of moon. exec=off setuid=off.
Krond
Chopping system into partitions makes it much more secure.
Anonymous
There comes an other side of moon. exec=off setuid=off.
Oh yeah, never thought about mounting system partitions as exec and setuid off
Hardcode
disks being small have nothing to do with it
Hardcode
separating partition is part of "failover domain" approach
Hardcode
there's a huge diference when /var has exhausted its disk space and when all of the partitions have exhausted their dist space because there's only one partition and /, /usr, /var and /tmp are merely directories, not mountpoint
Hardcode
so blaming "disk capacity" is blindness
Hardcode
are you sure ur an engineer and not an accountant/engineer amateur who just sticks on this channel
Hardcode
zfs is the best thing so far that happened to the IT
Hardcode
all the "problems" are from guys that just copypaste non-authentic sh*t from around the internet
Hardcode
most stable fs ever
Hardcode
or from Linux lol
XADE
zfs is the best thing so far that happened to the IT
it's heavier than any fs i've seen so far
Candy
disks being small have nothing to do with it
While there are still benefits to having separate partitions for all those, he is right that running out of disk space was the original reason.
Nowadays, things like quotas + reservations in ZFS can achieve the same thing
Hardcode
still you have to have separate datasets
Hardcode
nothing have changed so far
Hardcode
actually you confuse everything with everyting
Hardcode
there's a mess inside your head
Krond
Geez, man, cool down.
Hardcode
how can I cool down when an engineer wannabe teaches the whole channel ffs
Krond
Well, he just don't know the answer. ZFS has it's own weak points too, so you need to clearly understand what is traded for what to choose it.
Anonymous
zfs is the best thing so far that happened to the IT
I don't see the point of using ZFS in a normal desktop, sure home server or enterprise makes sense, I picked UFS and never had any problems so far
Krond
It even might come up that ZFS wouldn't be the right answer to him.
Hardcode
Hardcode
lets say "bless the virtue of ignorance"
Krond
We all live under heavy ignorance. I'm not even sure how my malloc works, and it goes further: OpenSSL, kernel structures, graphic libraries and JavaScript in my browser. I can only "believe" in some techy people, who make all this stuff work flawlessly for me, and never send photos of my credit card anywhere and so on.
Krond
I really don't think I will be ready some day to understand how JavaScript works.
Hardcode
yeah, but there's two kinds of people in this context
Hardcode
those who praise their ignorance and those who want to get rid of it
Hardcode
dunning-kruger distribution
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Anonymous
lets say "bless the virtue of ignorance"
I don't exactly get your sentence here, you're saying I'm ignorant for not using ZFS?
Hardcode
my initial comment had more layers in it, you merely picked just one of them.
Hardcode
but nice for starter
Krond
The comment about Dunning-Kruger effect is actually the best one. The person asking questions and seeking answers is ok. The one who blindly forces his truth onto others should seek help.
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
I have a doubt regarding some dot files over the user directory.
I have several .serverauth.12345 files there. From what I've seen they are created by Xorg when running the startx command. They should be automatically removed on X exit, but I still have ones from several months ago.
How can I tell X to delete them on exit?
Krond
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/199160/what-are-serverauth-files-in-my-home-directory
Krond
They are created by script so they can't be removed in case of crash.
Krond
My choice would be writing ~/bin/startx that would just drop all that files on start.
Krond
Wouldn't prevent double start though.
Anonymous
They are created by script so they can't be removed in case of crash.
Well they are created by xauth, though what security purpose does this exactly serve?
I disabled xauth, is there gonna be any problems with this?
Krond
That means anyone who can see your host over port 5600 can connect and display his windows.
Krond
Or grab keyboard buffer.
Anonymous
That means anyone who can see your host over port 5600 can connect and display his windows.
Wait, Xorg leaves those ports open when running?
Krond
I'm not sure whether they are disabled by default. Probably no. Or limited to localhost.
Anonymous
but nice for starter
Ok, why am I ignorant for not using ZFS even though my important data isn't on freebsd?
Hardcode
thats another multilayered question, though it does already contain the answer.
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
They are created by script so they can't be removed in case of crash.
Alright, I'm going to play around a bit with the content from the link and what you suggest. Thank you!
Anonymous
thats another multilayered question, though it does already contain the answer.
Then you're the one whose ignorant, with your ZFS One-Stop-Shop approach
There are only two single directories in my entire filesystem that are important, which are backed-up on 3 different storage devices all encrypted, I can continuously back them up using a script
Is ZFS a superior way of doing computer storage compared to my ext4 or UFS on a GPT partition table? Yes
Am I gonna set up a ZFS powerhouse just for those 2 single directories? No, ext4 already satisfies my needs and I've never had any issues with it
I wonder how many people just wanted to try out freebsd, and people like you told them to go with ZFS instead of the simple and straight-forward UFS, plaguing them with issues and ruining their first experience with freebsd
Anonymous
Also you're not Socrates, stop saying how """" Deep """" your comments are, give me a straight-forward answer
Anonymous
Also you're not Socrates, stop saying how """" Deep """" your comments are, give me a straight-forward answer
https://blog.gerv.net/2004/11/sco_website_hac/
Anonymous
That was funny. I remember SCO's website was hacked.
Anonymous
Anonymous
"Pay us all your money" 😂