David
I pay 13eur/month for 1gb high-speed, but no roaming or anything extra
orestes
Kirn
David
David
if we didn't care, we wouldn't be doing it
David
that's the whole point, we do care, and the download counts say a whole lot other people also do
David
sure of course, it's not too widely known
David
but that's to be expected: we are still alpha
orestes
Kirn
the progress both have made since then is quite impressive
orestes
David
WINE is in a usable state, though, while reactos is not really fit for everyday use
Kirn
it's opensource
So? It's okay to borrow from open source, I didn't say it wasn't.
David
?? why would you use anything BUT windows software with wine?
David
non-windows software you can run natively, that's the whole point of it
David
WINE isn't meant to be a standalone environment, it's only a compatibility layer for running windows programs
Kirn
David
what I mean is
Kirn
I know what you mean
David
WINE can get away with having partial support, and still call itself usable
David
ReactOS can't — partial kernel support means it crashes all the time
Anonymous
🌚I wonder ReactOS and GNU Hurd which could be first usable.
Kirn
I wish I could help you guys with that
Kirn
orestes
David
why not? if you install an mp3 decoder in it? ;P
David
maybe you can run winamp 1.0 ;P
Kirn
Or install VLC
orestes
orestes
orestes
orestes
but now reactos is a hell for anybody who works w/ computers
Kirn
Only compared to Windows 95.
orestes
Kirn
No.
Kirn
Unless you think it's perfectly acceptable for Apple to lower the bar for the user's technical skill level
orestes
No.
my ass not, windows 95 doesn't crash as often
Kirn
in which case, dude, WTF?
Kirn
ReactOS is on par with Windows 98 first edition for stability
orestes
Kirn
ReactOS is a little better than that as of 0.4.x
Kirn
Certain use-cases do trigger bugchecks (kernel crashes) more often than others, this I will admit, but it's more stable overall than any Windows 95 release.
David
maybe this works
David
http://www.oldware.org/download.php?download=176
David
it's the very first winamp released version
Kirn
ReactOS isn't going to bugcheck after 49.6 days of idle uptime simply because it's been up 49.6 days
orestes
yeah go download a verison from 20Bc
David
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Winamp_0.2a.jpg
David
it looked like this.
David
in ros?
Anonymous
Kirn
dude
Kirn
that app ran on Windows NT 3.1
Kirn
the 16-bit build ran on Windows 3.1
David
yeah but the audio in ros is.... experimental.
David
;P
Kirn
The first 32-bit builds ran on Windows 3.1 with Win32s as well
Kirn
See
David
although I remember running a newer winamp
David
I just had to change the output plugin from dsound to waveOut
Kirn
This is why I wonder why you guys don't just port UniAud from OS/2
Kirn
It's a port of ALSA from Linux to OS/2
David
because what we need is a proper working DirectSound
David
(and a proper working WASAPI — the NT6 low-level audio interface)
David
yes
Kirn
Okay
Kirn
Then I was misunderstanding
David
you can already use them, with waveOut