Arminio
The Arch wiki is often helpful with any other distro, too. Yes.
Phil
in the end arch is really simple to use it (I m not talking about the install)
Anonymous
well funny u shud say beccause
Anonymous
u can explan this to me
Phil
The arch wiki is based more on examples that are usefull to understand quickly
Anonymous
Apple, pioneered the 'just intuiative' thing
Anonymous
i like to think thats not true
Anonymous
i like to think apt did.
Anonymous
there literally are monkies
Anonymous
Apes sorry
Anonymous
who care really quite expert
Arminio
in the end arch is really simple to use it (I m not talking about the install)
Even that isn't exactly hard, but if the distro is the right one for you depends on too many things. I've found NixOS to be the better option for me in the end. Back then, Arch used to have a curses installer even. Long before they switched to systemd. I used to love Arch back then.
Anonymous
anyay so pacman i was told, was going to f***** blow my mind
Arminio
Anonymous
to call it a mere package manger was almost just silly
Arminio
That's the good old installer they just abandoned at some point
Anonymous
that ^^ looks ike debs style installer
Anonymous
and the best in the world
Anonymous
5 years running
Anonymous
so lets
Anonymous
do a little quiz
Anonymous
so strart with a neasy one eh
Phil
It's funny cause I m really hating Debian type distros
Anonymous
(no arch users allowed here)
Anonymous
apt-get update
Arminio
It's funny cause I m really hating Debian type distros
Not much surprising. Debian went downhill over the last years. Not in a good way.
Anonymous
what would you say that does, its clear i think to even non linux people
Anonymous
and
apt(-get) install package
apt(-get) reinstall package
apt(-get) remove package
apt(-get) purge package
apt search package
Anonymous
okay so thats debain
Anonymous
now lets see the future
Anonymous
could an Arch please show us some equivalents
Anonymous
we definitely had Arch users a min ago
Anonymous
reinstalling i would expect.
Phil
Yes but when I started to use linux (under ubuntu), then many times the upgrade to the newer version failed.. It's the reason now I prefer rolling release
Anonymous
omg
Anonymous
Just so im clear, your gripe about Debian and derivaives
Anonymous
is the stable, universal support
Phil
But nvm I will now change for BSD
Arminio
pacman -S package
pacman -S package (if you want to re-download, too, use -Scc)
pacman -R package
Not sure how to purge a package, but if you want its dependencies, too, I *think* it's -Rns
pacman -Ss package
Anonymous
see that ^^
Anonymous
as a CLI design from a staffer
Anonymous
id give him a friendly but firm lecutre
Anonymous
and tell him to do it properly
Arminio
Pacman's syntax is a horror, yes.
Anonymous
now the truth is i have nocredentials
Phil
I agree it's not the best choice to use flags -S ...
Anonymous
im blagging it
Anonymous
ah okay good
Anonymous
phew
Anonymous
and they cal
Anonymous
"install" -S
Anonymous
what is that i forget?
Anonymous
Sync?
Phil
in fact -S refere to synch
Anonymous
Ah
Arminio
Yeah and then there's -Su which is different from -Syu which is different from -Syyu
Arminio
Whoever comes up with such garbage deserves to be shot to the moon
Phil
But you must never use -Su , or it will break everything
Anonymous
now back to debians's stupid compatibility stuff
Anonymous
with the stable packages
Arminio
But you must never use -Su , or it will break everything
Yeah and then there's a lot of stuff you should not use at all but which the software allows you to do.
Anonymous
and he fce that 9/10 hthe source u find online
Anonymous
will just build.
Arminio
That's just terrible software design.
Anonymous
That's just terrible software design.
Strangely, some of mans greatest inventions have been
Anonymous
somerhere in Arch
Anonymous
is a passion
Anonymous
and a userbae where the bar is set high
Phil
I agree with this .. but I like the documentation, the install, and the rolling release
Anonymous
the rolling relase
Anonymous
tell me so much about ypi, and the sorts of things u do on a computer
Anonymous
and even the number of reinstalls / quarter
Anonymous
(a lot)
Anonymous
OR now maybe this is it
Anonymous
So Rolling sutff on debian distros
Anonymous
suicide
Anonymous
and massocism
Anonymous
and ur not a proper coder/anything