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the same error
Krond
No graphics hardware detected I guess…
Krond
Did somebody by a chance compared chrony to ntpd?
Krond
In the internet I can only find two comparisions — one on official chrony site stating that it overpowers ntpd and the other one is: https://engineering.fb.com/production-engineering/ntp-service/
Krond
The graphs are pretty impressive though I'm not convinced.
g
does anyone know if sway works on freebsd?
g
apparnetly its got tests to build https://github.com/swaywm/sway/blob/master/.builds/freebsd.yml
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Anonymous
hi
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i have question
g
just ask it
Anonymous
I feel bsd packages are too outdated
Anonymous
Even Older than debian
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Lol
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
Which ones?
ɴꙩᴍᴀᴅ
You can always build them from source with ports
Anonymous
Uses 3.28
Jay
The gnome one
Gnome uses a lot of linux-only tech and is a pain to port to other systems. Test if you like xfce or kde
kub-kun
./pascal.sh
Anonymous
I have used gnome on openrc (gentoo) 3.34
Anonymous
wow 187 members on feebsd group...
Anonymous
sad
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anybody here?
Anonymous
Ive not looked at FreeBSD for a VERY long timem and then i was just looking at stuf
Anonymous
recently i've been doing more and more low level NIC stuff
Anonymous
have hit the point where linux kernal cant reallly handle the packet rates that should be and are possible
Jay
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yes but it can do only so much
Anonymous
if you want line speed
Anonymous
then no fiddling with sysctl will get you even close
Anonymous
its not linux's fault
Anonymous
14 million packets per second
Anonymous
its many lots
Anonymous
and its not possible as it stands to achieve anything like this without going native
Anonymous
firing the kernel, and using DPDK/PF_RING/Others and the hardware offload provided by NICs that might have to do this stuff (10gbe+)
Anonymous
anyway i digreess
Anonymous
surprisingly im not always interested in spraying the internet with a big enough pipe to literally take down biggish networks because of a typo
Anonymous
anyway i think tis time i tried freebsd
Anonymous
kernel bypass etc aide
Anonymous
i write a lot of stuff that involves making 1-2 small requests to very large numbers of servers
Anonymous
anybody here code?
Jay
Why is working with packets in userspace faster?
Anonymous
context switches
Anonymous
dont get me wrong u can achieve 10gbps easily on a linux machine
Anonymous
but 10gbps @ 64 byte packet
Anonymous
all bound for different hosts
Anonymous
now i know there are facilities to do this SORT of thing
Anonymous
and have been for a long time
Anonymous
snabbswitch
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netmap
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dpdk
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http://netoptimizer.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-calculations-10gbits-wirespeed.html
Anonymous
this is a good description
Anonymous
With 14.88 Mpps the time budget for processing a single packet is: 67.2 ns (nanosecond) (calc as: 1/14880952*10^9 ns)
Anonymous
anwyay
Anonymous
Jay, [26.07.20 12:56]
Why is working with packets in userspace faster?
Anonymous
i am by no means an expert here
Anonymous
and i know if you know what ur doing it's posible to, for example
Anonymous
sne a pretty decent rate / cpu
Anonymous
send a decent rate/cpu
Anonymous
and you could do exactly what u would if u were bypassing kernel, you would still have to effectively tell it to leave you alone and stop sending RSTs
Anonymous
and then with your PHC in NIC internals, maybe just about get it recieving these
Anonymous
responses
Anonymous
PHD*
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with a year or two writing patches you might even get it performing in the same ballpark as PF_RING/DPDK
Anonymous
or XDP or fuck know there are always 6 things in kernel dev that are going to just these issues once and for all
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anyway )
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i would like to give BSD a go
Anonymous
but dealing with Quasi networks is like some form bizarre form of masochism and so if it would be representitive, could i install FreeBSD in a VM
Anonymous
and using
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[magicaly NIC virt-t waffler thing]
Anonymous
yep SR-IOV
Anonymous
i shud be able to pass the VM direct access to the NIC
Anonymous
but i can see this being one of those things ill mbe trying to get working 3 days late