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Kohane
03.04.2018
19:18:34
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03.04.2018
19:18:35
Using is a tiny contribution already :P
But using it is very much straight forward. Unlike arch or gentoo or LFS or Kali lol

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:18:45
There are exceptions though.

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Nick
03.04.2018
19:19:23
Moral aspects like what?
like.. breaking philosophy of Fedora usage...

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:19:30
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03.04.2018
19:19:55
Probably because his mother tongue is not English.
Oh no, I get that. It just seems that his questions are never specific. Then again, I't could be just me

Nick
03.04.2018
19:20:00
no

fear

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:21:02
Oh no, I get that. It just seems that his questions are never specific. Then again, I't could be just me
I also find them too general, but I thought it was because he didn't know how to make a reasonably complex sentence. Maybe I'm wrong and he just like too general sentences ?

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03.04.2018
19:21:06
I'm not terrified, but yeah, I seldom appreciate a dog sharing my own place.
Yeah that's the difference. I see a dog, I go petrified since my legs paralyze. And I have never had a dog incident. Not even in childhood. I'm weirdly just naturally scared of them .

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:21:43
like.. breaking philosophy of Fedora usage...
Oh. Well, there's no much to discuss but yeah, if you have any philosophical or legal concerns, you can ask as well.

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03.04.2018
19:22:24
But why? If you show them no fear and you're friendly to them they'll be super happy
I get that. There's only one dog that I'm comfortable with. It took me 9 months to get comfortable with him.

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:22:32
Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:23:04
sure looks like a rattlesnake

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03.04.2018
19:23:08
I like reptiles. And insects. They're fun. Especially turtles.

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:23:16
But why? If you show them no fear and you're friendly to them they'll be super happy
Yeah, well, very generally speaking. I know a lot of dogs that are unfriendly to say the less.

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Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:23:30
I get that. There's only one dog that I'm comfortable with. It took me 9 months to get comfortable with him.
Oh you should meet my coworker - he can even tame the most wild dogs by being close ?

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:23:41
I like reptiles. And insects. They're fun. Especially turtles.
I dislike insects in general. I like some particular species though.

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:24:02
Kohane
03.04.2018
19:24:25
I'm good with reptiles. I didn't say I don't like them, but naturally, if a poisonous snakes comes crawling in my direction I won't pet it.

Oh which? Some spiders are awesome.
Spiders are not insects.

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03.04.2018
19:25:15
Oh you should meet my coworker - he can even tame the most wild dogs by being close ?
Lol. Then again, even though I never had an scary encounter with dogs it, it could be because I live in a place where every street has around 5-10 stray dogs that bark a lot. They just bully the heck out of me

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:25:23
I like butterflies, bees, dragonflies, mantis (although they're creepy), beetles and a few others.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:25:30
racoons?

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:25:42
Racoons are not insects.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:25:47
oh

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03.04.2018
19:25:52
Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:26:04
racoons?
You mean



Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:26:22
yeeees ?

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:26:30
Of course. Although I lifted a pet anaconda once. Very beautiful
Yeah, but that's different. Anacondas and pythons are lazy until they're hungry.

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03.04.2018
19:26:31
Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:26:54
Haha
she sent me to /dev/null

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:26:57
BTW @Wolfshappen I love spiders.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:26:58
:P

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03.04.2018
19:27:00
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Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:27:03
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03.04.2018
19:27:29
Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:27:50
I was just trying to /dev/urandom

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03.04.2018
19:28:26
BTW @Wolfshappen I love spiders.
I had a friend who was an arachnophobic. I put 2 spiders in his pant on his birthday

Lazy till hungry, when hunger hits very dangerous. Then eat, lazy again

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:29:00
@Wolfshappen what actually happends in the background when you rm file, where does it go? Does it get zeroed ?

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:29:24
Lazy till hungry, when hunger hits very dangerous. Then eat, lazy again
You might try to swallow me if I'm around when you're hungry.

That's what I call a good friend

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:30:45
@Wolfshappen what actually happends in the background when you rm file, where does it go? Does it get zeroed ?
The node in the filesystem that tells the OS "Here shall be a file" is going away.

Its not wiped and can thus easily be recovered.

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03.04.2018
19:30:56
You might try to swallow me if I'm around when you're hungry.
I actually started biting people ( in a funny way of course ) :P I picked this up from my gf lol.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:31:14
Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:31:14
It will usually be set as prioritized to be overwritten by new data tho.

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:31:22
so the inode remains ?
The actual file content remains.

Anchit
03.04.2018
19:31:29
BTW @Wolfshappen I love spiders.
How does one love spiders? I mean, you can...... not dislike them but how do you love them unless you keep them as pets.

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:31:39
The OS will remove all references to where it is and all.

But the actual data remains

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:31:52
removes it from inodes table, but keeps contents

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03.04.2018
19:32:02
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Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:32:17
cool, thanks man

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03.04.2018
19:33:25
Its not wiped and can thus easily be recovered.
So if I do make do echo 0 > file and then rm it, the recovered file will have 0 as content right?

Anchit
03.04.2018
19:33:28
removes it from inodes table, but keeps contents
Thats pretty much what happens when you delete anything. The other way is replacing that data with zeroes and that takes time.

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:34:34
How does one love spiders? I mean, you can...... not dislike them but how do you love them unless you keep them as pets.
Well, I had two spiders at home, in the bathroom and another in the corner. I can't say they were pets because I didn't look after them, but... flatmates? Eight-legged flatmates.

Nick
03.04.2018
19:34:58
Whaats the point of multiple iterations of that zeroization?

than

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:35:28
I mean, they're strange and interesting. That's what I meant with "I love spiders" @IceWreck Not that I'm going to kiss them or somethig like that.

Anchit
03.04.2018
19:35:59
Well, I had two spiders at home, in the bathroom and another in the corner. I can't say they were pets because I didn't look after them, but... flatmates? Eight-legged flatmates.
I'd get rid of them if it were me. I'm not scared of them but I can't stand the sight of them. Specially the way they move.

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03.04.2018
19:36:00
Anchit
03.04.2018
19:36:24
Kohane
03.04.2018
19:36:54
Are you just scared to kill them?
Why would I be scared of a thing that bothers nobody, it's no bigger than 2 cms and has no means to make any damage to me or any other human being in the flat?

Tobias?
03.04.2018
19:36:54
If you have an ssd an unencrypted drives' old contents might be available almost forever

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03.04.2018
19:37:25
Until they kill you.
There's that. I would never touch one or do something to jeopardize my boring life but they are truly admirable.

No
So how will the original contents be accessible if I just rewrite the file with a 0 and then delete?

Anchit
03.04.2018
19:38:16
I mean, they're strange and interesting. That's what I meant with "I love spiders" @IceWreck Not that I'm going to kiss them or somethig like that.
I wasn't thinking of it that way. And now that you've said it, I can't get the thought of someone kissing a spider out of my head.

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:38:23
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03.04.2018
19:38:56
Anchit
03.04.2018
19:39:12
Meh. No. I don't kill except when it's strictly necessary.
There are other ways of getting rid of them.

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03.04.2018
19:39:19
french kissing.
I can't even imagine. They're fang like things and lips. Lol

Anchit
03.04.2018
19:39:19
Kohane
03.04.2018
19:39:33
Strictly necessary?
They're not poisonous, it's not necessary to kill them.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:39:38
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03.04.2018
19:40:13
They're not poisonous, it's not necessary to kill them.
Well, almost zero poisonous spiders here

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:40:22
The black widow spiders are absolutely brilliant looking.
I never met one face to face. Nor I mean to.

Well, almost zero poisonous spiders here
No poisonous spiders here either. That's why I leave them alone.

Daniel Andrei
03.04.2018
19:41:01
tomorrow morning, when people who didn't partake of this awesome meeting, will be greeted with 5000 unread messages. Enjoy guys :D

Kohane
03.04.2018
19:41:27
There are other ways of getting rid of them.
Yeah, but what for? They're tiny and live hidden. I don't even see them if I don't search them.

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