I really liked the last one. I was going to buy it, but then it all went downhill, so I figured I shouldn't.

HP Elite is officially last Wnphone device, in 2019, support will end

Yeah, that was a bit sad IMHO. One last push and though it did alright, it's still sad.

Search button was one of the most genius thing in all phones history

Made a whole button for websearching to use it anytime - awesome

Made a whole button for websearching to use it anytime - awesome

IMHO that was one of the biggest FU things in this phone. Android - Search button brings up search in currently opened application; in Windows Phone - opens up BING despite whatever you're doing

It wasnt bing in my country

and it was placed where I pushed it all the time by accident

Doesn't this actually perform an upgrade?

No, read the manpage - update is linking to upgrade because update is deprecated.

It wasnt bing in my country

I just changed it from the default :3

Do you remember @Wolfshappen when I asked about a Chromebook? Well, I have it in my hands. It’s Acer... with 10GB storage. And I thought 32GB was too little!

Told you

so - I'm using an application to check on a bus timetable or anything else that was actually useful, and then boom - bing comes up because I've accidently touched a button

No, read the manpage - update is linking to upgrade because update is deprecated.

So this doesn't update packages, just the repo/source list?

I just changed it from the default :3

I remember it wasn't possible in my phone, but still

It wasnt bing in my country

The way of working of this button was different in different countries

I remember it wasn't possible in my phone, but still

Oh yeah, I think there were a bunch that couldn't :(

so - I'm using an application to check on a bus timetable or anything else that was actually useful, and then boom - bing comes up because I've accidently touched a button

In my 520, search button was not a problem like your button, and there was no Bing but Yandex, which was nice for me

upgrade does the exact same as update.

In my 520, search button was not a problem like your button, and there was no Bing but Yandex, which was nice for me

Sounds better, but now imagine you're pushing the button by accident all the time, and it brings up Bing. You'd hate it after one day ?

that was my experience, and it's just a tip of an iceberg of my annoyances with this phone, which wasn't even so much low end for windows phones

upgrade does the exact same as update.

That's not what I'm saying

Huh, well, a very controversal part in history of smartphones

I was asking if the command you provided actually updates (or upgrades, if that makes you more at ease) the packages themeselves, and not just syncing the list itself.

In other words, the difference between sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade.

Or as the original topic was... The difference between sudo pacman -Syy and sudo pacman -Syyu

AFAIK, running that will actually upgrade packages, not just sync the list, which was the goal.

I was asking if the command you provided actually updates (or upgrades, if that makes you more at ease) the packages themeselves, and not just syncing the list itself.

it upgrades in apt terms, as does update.

makecache is apts update

Also why would you just update the lists without then upgrading the packages? or forcing to keep the current lists with --cache-only instead of downloading them if new? :P

Look what I found, a nostalgic message from the not so deep past

Not really but you might be able to update from 23 to 27

The Ask Noah! show is running a straw poll on Ubuntu vs Fedora: http://asknoahshow.com/elimination

and right now, Ubuntu is winning ?

Never got why fedora is more unpopolar than ubuntu. At the end it just works as easy

and right now, Ubuntu is winning ?

Unfortunately, yeah.

IMO, Fedora is easier to use than Ubuntu

a lot of the tooling works more like you would expect

and there's some serious effort in polishing desktop workflows by the Fedora Workstation folks

Yep, yep and yep

Plus they don't enable upstream flags willy-nilly.

Wait, @Conan_Kudo you follow the manga or the anime?

mainly the anime

but I do occasionally read the manga

Oh kewl.

it's a bit harder to get that since Viz publishes it so infrequently

but I do occasionally read the manga

I follow the manga exclusively...

it's a bit harder to get that since Viz publishes it so infrequently

I get it from mangareader, mostly...

Plus they don't enable upstream flags willy-nilly.

Well maybe they like flaws, who knows :p

Well maybe they like flaws, who knows :p

Yeap lol

and right now, Ubuntu is winning ?

Not very surprising, though I love both :D

If ubuntu is our flagship i'm not surprised is never the year of linux :p

I don't think it'll ever be the year of the Linux desktop just because of how it's implemented, and the difficulties justifying feature sacrifices for ideological reasons.

Good lord

I can't even boot from USB drive

Neither from DVD

Nor sd card

Fuck

It even display my USB drive name as "diskette drive"

I can't even boot from USB drive

Fedora 27?

If ubuntu is our flagship i'm not surprised is never the year of linux :p

Windows anyone? ?

It even display my USB drive name as "diskette drive"

How did you deploy the image

It even display my USB drive name as "diskette drive"

Could you tell us more about this issue, @GhAliesh?

Fedora 27?

no 26, I'm trying to boot from USB drive to install arch

How did you deploy the image

I used fedora media writer

Could you tell us more about this issue, @GhAliesh?

The USB drive seems to be mounted and read only, is that normal?

The USB drive seems to be mounted and read only, is that normal?

Nah, shouldn't be. Unless you set it that way in purpose...

Can you boot into other Linux live ISOs? Try rewriting the contents of the flash drive, maybe.

I tried several images for arch and it is showing the same error in a way I can't even read, I'll try to capture the screen with camera or something.

Is there any recommended package to install for power managing in laptops? Or the default install should be fine

Is there any recommended package to install for power managing in laptops? Or the default install should be fine

TLP, powertop, for starters. Plus, you can do the usual, dim brightness, kill/ close unnecessary apps/ tabs, not have unnecessary stuff running in the background.

Is there any recommended package to install for power managing in laptops? Or the default install should be fine

default is fine, I can also recommend using powertop to tweak settings for possible gains

I don't think it'll ever be the year of the Linux desktop just because of how it's implemented, and the difficulties justifying feature sacrifices for ideological reasons.

https://blog.justinwflory.com/2015/10/year-linux-desktop-flock-2015-summary/ I don't think much has changed ?

I don't think it'll ever be the year of the Linux desktop just because of how it's implemented, and the difficulties justifying feature sacrifices for ideological reasons.

I don't think it too, but in reality i was just joking...at the same time anyway i think in the end anyone can use a distro like Korora without any technical knowledge at all nor ideological reason, and with a very little learning curve you can use fedora too, even without all the principles that fedora advocates...just my 5c anyway :)

https://blog.justinwflory.com/2015/10/year-linux-desktop-flock-2015-summary/ I don't think much has changed ?

"Another frustrating aspect of Linux is that the kernel can fully support a 4096-processor supercomputer, but a laptop can have difficulties waking up from sleep."