Dmitriy
Скачай и поставь себе
Разворачивать же надо
Pavel
Парни, ну вы че
Dmitriy
Ало там без инсталла
Pavel
Битрикс больше 10 лет назад купил 1с
Pavel
Который залил его баблом
Sergey_K
Ды все в курсе
Иван
Ало там без инсталла
https://nightly.modx.by/download/modx-3.0.0-dev-20190804.zip
Sergey_K
1С его и двигает и давно бабло отбил, уверен
Pavel
Вот и секрет полишинеля по поводу Битрикса
Sergey_K
Это не секрет)
Dmitriy
А чё платные плагины modx LLC не отстегивают процент?
Dmitriy
Типо модстора
Dmitriy
Какие нибудь крупные
Sergey_K
А чё платные плагины modx LLC не отстегивают процент?
Механизма контроля нет, поэтому нет
Sergey_K
Да и зачем?
Dmitriy
Команде бабки
Dmitriy
Чтобы разработка велась
Dmitriy
Ото они на жопе ровно сидят
Sergey_K
Модх больше заинтересован в том, чтобы они были, а не наоборот
Sergey_K
Посмотри вот на Павла. Ловата пишет для октября, хотя могли то же самое написать для модх
Sergey_K
Чтобы разработка велась
Они вошли в ту же жопу, что и "одноклассники"
Pavel
Посмотри вот на Павла. Ловата пишет для октября, хотя могли то же самое написать для модх
А мы так и планировали. И даже начали разработку, но вовремя спрыгнули
Sergey_K
Не знают, как монетизироваться
Sergey_K
А мы так и планировали. И даже начали разработку, но вовремя спрыгнули
Ну я в веб-технологиях слаюо соображаю, но и то все примерно ясно)))
Pavel
Ещё раз повторю, они хотели сделать магаз готовых сайтов на базе клауда
Sergey_K
А почему вы модиксам не предложили это напрямую?
Pavel
Но даже это не сделали
Андрюха
Всем привет. Кто нибудь делал "Файлы Sitemap для изображений" на MODX? https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/178636?hl=ru
Sergey_K
Может даже взяли бы часть разработки на себя
Pavel
А почему вы модиксам не предложили это напрямую?
Я предлагал в 2013 году, когда мы держали активно связь с ними
Pavel
Они и ответили нам про планы по клауду
Sergey_K
А сейчас ты думаешь уже не вытянуть?
Sergey_K
Модх на нормальные рельсы
Sergey_K
Или нет смысла?
Dmitriy
Если бы он был на офф сайте
Нодо выпилить поддержку сторонних путей
Dmitriy
Установку из архива
Dmitriy
Только разработчикам под ключ
Dmitriy
А магазины только разрешенные
Иван
Надо было раньше у себя делать
Dmitriy
Чо?
Иван
На последнем ситаре они заявили, что будут продавать на офф сайте
Dmitriy
Ну вот
Sergey_K
А магазины только разрешенные
И что? Это выстрел в ногу
Pavel
Вот письмо из 2013 года от MODX
Pavel
Hi Pavel, Thank you very much for completing this. I am going to ask my team lead Yee Jee Tso to take a look and he will come back if he has any questions. On taking a quick read, you look like you have a great range of skills and abilities which is great to see. In terms of the services partner program, we do not really have a formal program per se. I have in essence been building some strong relationships with a handful of development companies like yourself, who have a wide range of MODX skills, and a good amount of capacity (developers on staff). At MODX, we are often asked to provide services directly to a client. At times, companies simply prefer to use the company that is behind the MODX software. To ensure the growth and popularity of the software, we like to accept this work, but often need additional resources to help deliver it. What clients enjoy is having MODX as the project lead and manager, as a minimum, thereby guaranteeing a higher level of quality, and when we have resources available, we collaborate with an organization like Lovata to complete the work. In general it is the more medium/large and more complex assignments we are asked to get involved with, but it could be anything really. One agency we work with like to turn around site builds once or twice a month, others drop in a large project once a year. We also have a range of monthly and annually support contract clients.Their contracts include a fixed amount of support, so we are consistently performing work for them. In these cases too, we try not to give the usual 2-3 week lead time, more 1-week really, thereby keeping the service levels up. Emergency fixes we try to handle ourselves, but even then occasionally we need things escalated with partners if we need their help. Hopefully this gives you an idea of what we are looking for. I would be interested in understanding your hourly pricing for planned and more accelerated work. Should we feel that we are a good fit for each other, we have a simple contractors agreement, and I will send this over with the final pricing we settle on. Looking forward to continuing our conversations!
Pavel
Вот так мы с н ими и успели поработать
Sergey_K
С хкрали?
Потому что все уйдут на октябрь и иже с ними, где не берут роялти. Наивный ты, епт
Sergey_K
Эпл когла открывал стор, доплачивал разработчикам
Dmitriy
Рассказывай
Иван
С хкрали?
Верно Сергей написал
Sergey_K
А чего рассказывать? Долю рынка посмотри, Диман
Dmitriy
Ну и нафиг такие упыри не нужны тогда
Dmitriy
Жидосы всякие
Sergey_K
Диман, прости, но ты с таким подходом так и будешь нищебродом)
Sergey_K
Вот ничего личного
Dmitriy
А модкс щас не нищкброд да?
Dmitriy
Даже разрабов держать не может
Sergey_K
Hi Pavel, Thank you very much for completing this. I am going to ask my team lead Yee Jee Tso to take a look and he will come back if he has any questions. On taking a quick read, you look like you have a great range of skills and abilities which is great to see. In terms of the services partner program, we do not really have a formal program per se. I have in essence been building some strong relationships with a handful of development companies like yourself, who have a wide range of MODX skills, and a good amount of capacity (developers on staff). At MODX, we are often asked to provide services directly to a client. At times, companies simply prefer to use the company that is behind the MODX software. To ensure the growth and popularity of the software, we like to accept this work, but often need additional resources to help deliver it. What clients enjoy is having MODX as the project lead and manager, as a minimum, thereby guaranteeing a higher level of quality, and when we have resources available, we collaborate with an organization like Lovata to complete the work. In general it is the more medium/large and more complex assignments we are asked to get involved with, but it could be anything really. One agency we work with like to turn around site builds once or twice a month, others drop in a large project once a year. We also have a range of monthly and annually support contract clients.Their contracts include a fixed amount of support, so we are consistently performing work for them. In these cases too, we try not to give the usual 2-3 week lead time, more 1-week really, thereby keeping the service levels up. Emergency fixes we try to handle ourselves, but even then occasionally we need things escalated with partners if we need their help. Hopefully this gives you an idea of what we are looking for. I would be interested in understanding your hourly pricing for planned and more accelerated work. Should we feel that we are a good fit for each other, we have a simple contractors agreement, and I will send this over with the final pricing we settle on. Looking forward to continuing our conversations!
Ну короче ясно, стратегия местечкового руководителя проектов) Грустно.
Sergey_K
Даже разрабов держать не может
Так у них логика примерно как у тебя, но из другой крайности
Dmitriy
Нихера
Sergey_K
Хера
Dmitriy
А ты лучше знаешь да чё делать?
Dmitriy
Бабки где-то ходят стороной
Pavel
О
Sergey_K
Я - да, знаю. Просто потому, что это элементарные законы рынка. Их многие знают.
Pavel
Нашел переписку с джеем
Pavel
За 2013 год
Pavel
[15:51:42] Jay Gilmore: We are planning both a new Marketplace for MODX.com/Cloud and inside Package Management. [15:51:43] Pavel Lovtsevich: I see [15:52:13] Pavel Lovtsevich: Great, that's (inside PM) exactly what community need! [15:53:20] Pavel Lovtsevich: The appearance of the store is to be bound to any release? MODX3? [15:53:27] Jay Gilmore: Yes. That's the hardest challenge but to get there we need to make some significant changes to how the extras work. [15:53:59] Jay Gilmore: I don't know that answer whether the in-app store will be tied to a release. [15:54:34] Jay Gilmore: It likely will be but depending on how it affects backward compatibility if at all it could be in 2.3.x or a 2.4 [15:55:52 | Изменены 15:55:59] Pavel Lovtsevich: 2.3, 2.4 and 3.0 releases this year? [15:56:14] Jay Gilmore: 2.3 will be out for testing in a couple weeks, I'd imagine. [15:56:21] Jay Gilmore: I don't know beyond that. [15:56:46] Pavel Lovtsevich: Big plans! Good luck! =) [15:57:40] Pavel Lovtsevich: Maybe my team could help with the development of some part for the early release? [15:58:13] Jay Gilmore: Happy to have your suggestions and input on the marketplace. What would you personally like to see as part of a commercial add-on offering? [15:59:53 | Изменены 16:00:05] Pavel Lovtsevich: I need to think about. I can send a separate e-mail with list of wishes. [16:00:18] Pavel Lovtsevich: =) [16:00:59 | Изменены 16:01:04] Pavel Lovtsevich: Ok? [16:01:08] Jay Gilmore: Please do. [16:01:13] Pavel Lovtsevich: ok
Pavel
В общем, мне добавить больше нечего. Взгляните на календарь, какой год на дворе