https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1502200151540125697?t=MvRjepNB2Cn3zFtZ2HS_dg&s=19

https://twitter.com/reactos/status/1502298318726213635

Second call

Nice

LMAO https://twitter.com/Kostastsale/status/1501543323521138695

https://youtu.be/pq4T-boHwOQ I notice Alexander saying "Reactos" and not "React-O-S". So, is the name of the OS Reactos or React-O-S?

ReactOS can be pronounced in both ways

Oh

there is no strict pronunciation

I think I'm gonna stick with "Reactos" when talking to non techies because when I showed ReactOS to my cousin, he read "reactos" I told him it is "React-O-S" and he was confused as hell

@x86corez where do you get your pfp from? A game?

I got it from the Internet

Its just a random art work?

You can google by picture if interested

but this is off-topic anyway

K

Ver 0.4.15 is going to be stable, right?

Ver 0.4.15 is going to be stable, right?

Depending on how many bugs we fix in the meantime

Oh

might depend on definition of stable :p

As stable as Windows Me!

I guess until we have a proper memory manager, we cannot consider ourselfs as 'stable'

it's common in OS versioning to mean that stable means the API/ABI is fixed. Think of Debian 11.x or FreeBSD 13.x as examples of that. Microsoft used to do it with Windows 7 and hotfixes usually didn't add features or remove them

of course users often mean stable to just refer to how long you can maintain uptime. I'd wager that ReactOS is about on par with Windows 98 at present.

We are kind of windows me without audio and printers

My anecdotal experience places WinMe as having improved stability over 98 :P

I never used enough those to spit an opinion

I keep Me in a VM for some old school gaming

My first OS experience was win 95 with a trash can computer

And then I just jump to windows 2000 with a friend computer where I did some homework

Until my dad bought our first pc with windows xp

I was 15 y/o at that time 🤣

But I was always fascinated with programming

ReactOS would be able to run apps and drivers made for all versions of Windows, right?

ReactOS would be able to run apps and drivers made for all versions of Windows, right?

Everything prior to Vista

And later than dos-based

at present it's designed around the Windows NT 5.2 driver API, so drivers for 2000, XP, and 2003 are supposed to run. hypothetically application support is unrestricted. You get limitations in the ReactOS implementation on both ends of that.

Perhaps some drivers written for Vista might work with tweaks in kernel

But unfortunately network drivers do not fall in this category because Vista have a totally rewritten Ndis

the major versions for NT used to denote driver compatibility breaks

3.x, 4.0, 5.x, 6.x were all separate compatibility levels

5.2 can run drivers from 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2, but not 4.0 or 6.0

it's a large part of why Windows 7 was version 6.1 (where Vista is 6.0), because it can still run drivers for Vista. Same with 8 and 8.1 being 6.2 and 6.3

then I guess marketing people didn't like seeing "Windows 6.3" on the command prompt so the internal version matches the marketing name, so Windows 10 is NT 10.0, but still maintains driver compatibility with 6.x. And because driver installers knew that, Windows 10 reports itself as being Windows 8.1 (NT 6.3) by default unless the application manifest actually declares explicit Windows 10 compatibility. It became confusing and messy from that point.

basically it's still the driver model from Vista with the compatibility for Vista drivers

The question here is if we could be able to integrate a vista+ driver compat

Because being honest, the hardware for nt 5.x is getting old and obsolete

The end user would expect to get work its hardware drivers from 2017 on Reactos

I doubt there's any new hardware made that still has 5.x drivers

probably hasn't been for years

They died in 2014

yeah probably

Even android phones don't recognize windows xp when plugged to pc

best option is to move ReactOS forward with targeting the kernel ABI of newer Windows versions (7 or 10 would make sense) Alternative is to spearhead open source NT 5.x driver development... and good luck. that's a gargantuan task nobody would really want to do

Even Linux with its vast hardware support gets the majority (90%+) of its drivers written by the hardware vendors themselves.

There are a few generic fallbacks but none of them are good options for serious use. VESA modes for basic bitmap displays, and practically every network card emulating a NE2000. They get you somewhere before you can install good drivers, but they're not good options themselves.

best option is to move ReactOS forward with targeting the kernel ABI of newer Windows versions (7 or 10 would make sense) Alternative is to spearhead open source NT 5.x driver development... and good luck. that's a gargantuan task nobody would really want to do

Although in github I've seen crazy people that are willing to write those things

Specially with linux drivers

The_DarkFire_#2772: With the way things like NDIS and XDDM work it should be both to have both existing like Vista/7

I exaggerated when I said "nobody" but yeah... porting Linux drivers is easier than figuring out the hardware from scratch.

Will there ever be a ReactOS subsystem for Linux? Like WSL

And will there be an ReactOS subsystem for Android? Like how windows 11 has

that requires hardware virtualization support

cant even develop that without modern enough hardware running reactos with no major issues

But they are possible

Aren't they?

If you want to code the support, sure.

I'll donate money instead

What is the point of that?

It's not like we lack things to do, so why add yet another project that is huge?

Oh

money won't do anything toward the goal of WSL. There's a lot more important things it'd do first

unless you can donate $1 billion to fund a large full-time dev team, ReactOS is going to be focused on the core OS

donate $1 billion to speed up core OS development instead

That's how much Europe is paying Russia a day for oil and gas after the sanctions Or atleast I heard that is it 1 billion dollars a day

If only Putin clicked the donate button...

Ver 0.4.15 is going to be stable, right?

It is going to be a lot better than 0.4.14, significantly

It is going to be a lot better than 0.4.14, significantly

Stability wise?

Stability is a subject to change depending hardware and software you use

Oh