Eris
i wonder if watching the videos by dave plummer is considered okay
Harrison
TBH I WATCHED IT
Stas'M
Harrison
And that's why came here improving task manager
Harrison
Let me see what else can I do. Redraw graphs on resize, this one seems trivial
Harrison
The CPU is more idle than doing nothing
Mike
Harrison
Anyways, gotta put the changes into PR soon
Harrison
Funny thing is that, ReactOS rebellious code was hosted on Microsoft servers.
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You mean github or a reactos.org is on windows server
Harrison
GitHub, yes
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Both way is so ironic but I know that just some oarts of github is on windows azurr server like actions and packages
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The other servers are on Linux. I tested it on yesterday. Accidentally I cause a little azure service cutoff with my f*cking stupit azure server experiment. Just github actions and packages was stop to working.
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And also one of my friend say that after selling to Microsoft they just adapt oackages and actions parts to azure. Not all database and git repos into windows server. They decide to put system back on Linux server. Just take monitary supply to make their servers spread. Microsoft not yet say that "Github must migrate windows's fucking servers immidiately." BTW if it would be happent means github wanna kil itself😂
Harrison
I dont see any advantages in adopting Windows server OSes
Harrison
I'm using Linux because it's faster than Windows 10.
rosbridge
<hbelusca (Gmunu=8PiG/c4Tmunu)> 👍 for the old-school terminal @RigoLigo
Harrison
Harrison
Mike
Am i the only one quite happy with Windows? I just can't stand Microsoft commercial strategies
Harrison
I'd be happy with Windows if it opens up apps as fast as Linux. 😏
Eris
i'd be happy with windows if it wasnt windows 10
Eris
i'd like to speak to the person who thought it was a really good idea to turn ordinary programs into win10 apps
Eris
including the settings
Can
New settings and UWP are no more than a bag of shit!
Can
Until they rediscover the soul of Longhorn.
Eris
too late
Harrison
Harrison
I guess this is also a reason why MS is ruling out Win32 apps in Win10X
Harrison
NT APIs are going to be kinda...dangerous?
Harrison
https://www.blackhat.com/docs/eu-16/materials/eu-16-Liang-Attacking-Windows-By-Windows.pdf
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Anonymous
Anonymous
NT and Win32 are entirely different things
Anonymous
With NT API you're referring to the native/kernel mode APIs
Anonymous
Win32 is just the subsystem environment with its own API libraries (+ the grossly crying Win32k kernel backend of the subsystem)
Mike
Eris
....no????
Eris
this is the most wrong thing i've read tonight
Eris
what do you suggest then, wrap it all into electron?
Nils
Nils
Or even imgui
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Hi, I haven’t read anything about ReactOS in one year or so, is it already in beta?
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I mean in beta state
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Not alpha anymore
Chungy
It's still in alpha.
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Ok thank you
Chungy
In software development, alpha tends to refers to a status that reflects that basic functionality has not yet been implemented and the design not yet finalized.
Beta is the next step up, where all the desired features are implemented but it has not gone through rigorous testing yet.
Chungy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuXqzdYmTQ
Eris
Chungy
ReactOS has been in development since 1996... and Windows is a moving target.
There was at least a brief pause when Microsoft nearly abandoned Win32 development in the Windows 8.x cycle.
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How much time then?
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Is the code of XP of any help?
Chungy
The kernel ABI is presently stuck at Windows Server 2003, that doesn't mean it'll be there forever. It's at least a nice stepping stone that doesn't move before ReactOS moves onto compatibility with newer releases.
Eris
Is the code of XP of any help?
is it of any help to get this project shut down faster than you can write "You have selected Microsoft Sam as the computer's default voice."
Chungy
Microsoft has open sourced the Windows FAT and CDFS drivers, and ReactOS uses those, for example
Chungy
The kernel ABI partially dictates the interface with the userland, and it dictates the driver models that are used. There was a reasonable period where running Windows 2000/XP/2003 drivers meant ReactOS had decent hardware support. I think that particular goal has been gone for a few years, however.
Userspace code (the vast majority of DLL files in the system) don't depend so hard on the kernel ABI. There's very little that stops Windows Vista (or 7, 8.x, 10) functions from being added to those. Just that Vista+ drivers won't be supported at all, at least not yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Which is basically, never
Anonymous
Vista+ (NT 6.0, et al) is just NT 5.2 with improvements in the kernel and whatnot. It makes sense for us to get NT 5.2 done first and then continue forward
Anonymous
Would it be logical to build a house if you don't have the base underground for it?
Chungy
I did say most :P
Chungy
Unfortunately at this point in time, 2003 is about equally usable as Windows 95 for internet applications and that spills over to ReactOS too
Harrison
Lots of Chinese applications do work with NT5.2, since many XP systems are still in use.
Harrison
I tried them but ReactOS can't handle VC++ runtime libraries very well; even if I install VC++ Redistributable it still reports missing functions.
Mike
Happy Easter! 🤗 And if you don't celebrate Easter, I still hope you have a good day 😊
hacker12455
Harrison
The most widely used chat tool in China, QQ, I tested it, installs but doesn't open because of ms-api-xxx blah blah blah
rosbridge
<hbelusca (Gmunu=8PiG/c4Tmunu)> it's using vista+ apisets
Harrison
No, it works on XP SP3
Harrison
And I indeed installed VC++ runtime libraries
Harrison
No effect
rosbridge
<hbelusca (Gmunu=8PiG/c4Tmunu)> ok
rosbridge
<hbelusca (Gmunu=8PiG/c4Tmunu)> then we may have a bug in the apiset support in ROS.
Harrison
I used a kind of of AIO VC++ runtime installer, commonly seen in China, which uses a custom installer to install all the commonly used libraries