cho-hun you live in china?

[cho-hun] k_inspired yes

[hbelusca] remix2000: wait a bit and they'll adopt RedStar OS :D

[hyoenmadan] <cho-hun>: is rare someone knowing about reactos, but not knowing anything about linux, so maybe is true anyone else recommended ROS to him

[hbelusca] maybe he's living in deep countryside.

[CatButts] purrhaps

[cho-hun] friend give me ReactOS year ago hyoenmadan

[hyoenmadan] <cho-hun>: in any case, if you really want to sped some time partitcipating in reactos community, you will learn about these word, or at least you will pushed to use google search to find about what they mean

[cho-hun] we have 4 computers in our town

[cho-hun] everyone use windows year ago

[cho-hun] but now I and friend use ReactOS

[cho-hun] my friend friends still windows but this not continue long

[remix2000] Google is illegal in China, hyoenmadan.

[hbelusca] remix2000: and baidu is monitored, so... ^^

[cho-hun] I used wrong google translate remix2000?

[hbelusca] if it's translate.google.com it's the correct one.

[hbelusca] (supposing it hasn't been redirected)

[remix2000] cho-hun: That's interesting, does GCFW even allow you to visit google?

[cho-hun] I can not see google

[hbelusca] remix2000: if you read the news you know that you've still access to google there, but possibly a bit restrained. Unless it has changed very recently.

[hbelusca] cho-hun: ? So with what website are you translating?

[cho-hun] https://fanyi.baidu.com/

[hbelusca] ah ok then.

[hbelusca] remix2000: so yeah.

[cho-hun] is it no problem?

[hbelusca] i think it should be ok.

[cho-hun] my children go to ReactOS

[cho-hun] I leave

[hyoenmadan] bye, good luck :-)

that was weird

[hbelusca] ok they can have fun with some DOS games under ntvdm then :D

[drakonis] ntvdm eh?

[hbelusca] yeah

[hyoenmadan] yeh, it supports DOS DBCS apps

[drakonis] its pretty much dosbox isn't it?

[hyoenmadan] and the DOS Chinese IME

[hyoenmadan] <drakonis>: hmmm... yes and not

[drakonis] since you can't access the 16 bit range while on 64 bit

[hbelusca] drakonis : yeah a bit like dosbox. But dosbox is really oriented towards retro games so it has all the twicks and tricks and schmliks to make them working.

[hbelusca] ntvdm is a bit more generic.

[hyoenmadan] indeed, it does all in a full emulated CPU

[hbelusca] and yeah ^

[drakonis] i'd prefer accuracy over speed hacks in this case

[hbelusca] Oh and btw that emulated cpu is used in the x64 ROS port ;)

[drakonis] there's an dosbox fork that's focused on providing generic support

[drakonis] very nice

[hbelusca] drakonis : yeah we are trying to be a bit more accurrate but still.

[hyoenmadan] yes, is the same engine which now powers our x86 bios emulator in HAL

VirtualBox + MS DOS 7.1

[drakonis] a bios emulator you say?

[hbelusca] hyoenmadan: that is used for the video driver .

[hbelusca] drakonis yes.

[hyoenmadan] <drakonis>: yes

[drakonis] cool

[hyoenmadan] required to run card oproms

[drakonis] by the way, have you heard about pcem?

[hyoenmadan] which are required to configure certain card stuff

[hyoenmadan] and some drivers look for

[x86corez] I've tried to run ReactOS in DOSBox :p

[drakonis] every time i look into pcem i just think about whether it is worthwhile to provide a way to emulate hardware

[x86corez] but looks like it would require different HAL

x86corez you're crazy

[drakonis] emulate ibm pc hardware

[x86corez] I know @k_inspired :p

the only thing in which reactos excels, is NTVDM

[hbelusca] :D

[hbelusca] thanks CrystalMath ^^

[drakonis] https://pcem-emulator.co.uk/ this is neat

[dandelion] btw, 86box looks better than pcem and has network

[hyoenmadan] <drakonis>: the only thing PCem really lacks is a proper SerIO

[drakonis] i know 86box is better than pcem

[drakonis] but it doesn't have a fancy website

[hyoenmadan] <drakonis>: but 86box still doesn't have SerIO

[drakonis] i can't link it to show off features

[drakonis] it doesn't either, what a shame

[hyoenmadan] that's we can't use it as other testing target

[hbelusca] Do you know there's a way to mount (raw) floppy images and also raw flat hdds in our ntvdm?

[dandelion] I try today with reactos (vgal) but it was slow

[drakonis] i'd like to steal the hardware emulation and bolt it into reactos for compatibility

[drakonis] for the arcane hardware