[Mysoft] in 4k resolution :P

[Mysoft] then perahps...

[oiaohm] Mysoft: never made it to live round stage because it keep on paint ball coating it friendlies,.

[Mysoft] but that's not something i would call embedded anyway

[Mysoft] :D

[oiaohm] If you wantted it to kill all humans it would be perfect.

[oiaohm] As it was doing 98 percent head and hart shots.

[Mysoft] probabily has some huge processing power

[Mysoft] to be able to handle 128g at same time

[Mysoft] i.e. for it to not be wasteful

[oiaohm] Please note you are talking a single 4k video source in devices like you are talking start at least 6.

[oiaohm] So the processing system has to have some serous power.

[Mysoft] yeah

[Mysoft] tought so... then yeah it's 128g

[Mysoft] for a good reason

[Mysoft] altough... i don't think processing 4k compared to full HD helps much

[Mysoft] unles...

[Mysoft] you're surveiling long distances from the sky

[Mysoft] but who knows if there's a place where 4k can have it's advantages would be on realtime data processing

[oiaohm] A tank need to be watching from right near to it out to the horizon.

[oiaohm] A lot of ways a tank is harder than a aircraft.

[Mysoft] obstructions and such

[Mysoft] you know how many mp's the camera used there are rated?

[Mysoft] because i don't know military grade stuff...

[Mysoft] i only know cameras that lie about being high mp :P

[oiaohm] Mysoft: you are limited where you can attempt this stuff. You need Frazier lens for the cameras that don't have depth of field limitations.

[Mysoft] heh tought so

[Mysoft] but having a 4k camera

[Mysoft] that taking a picture

[Mysoft] would be able to see a DOT that is 2x2 pixels

[oiaohm] Having a 4k camera with a standard lens bluring stuff out because it not in focus is a restrictive.

[Mysoft] (to allow some tolerance for niquist) would be REALLY awesome

[Mysoft] :D

[gigaherz] will be nice when lightfield cameras become affordable, and we can do DoF in post without just faking it :P

[oiaohm] gigaherz: adobe lightfields are even more expensive. 100 megapixel cameras.

[oiaohm] Mysoft: 4k is only 8.3 megapixels.

[stevendale] xD

[Mysoft] yes but a 8.3 megapixels camera

[Mysoft] don't take accurately a 4k picture

[Mysoft] if i try to capture a 4k monitor using 8.3 megapixels

[Mysoft] i wont be able to properly distuingish the pixels

[Mysoft] (and not even half of that)

[stevendale] Is .NET 4.7.1 working in ReactOS? uwu

[Mysoft] but niquist would show me that i need at least 4x to get a distinction for each pixel in 4k

[Mysoft] unless they are perfectly synced

[Mysoft] or focused in this case

[Mysoft] so yeah 40mp would be the one to go to

[oiaohm] gigaherz: Frazier lens does not have a DoF limitation. So you can have something 1 mm of the lens in perfect focus and something at horizon in perfect focus.

[oiaohm] gigaherz: your general camera lens designs are pure crap.

[Mysoft] those camera have fast responses?

[oiaohm] gigaherz: there are ways of making a lens that you don't have focus argument. You have zoom but that it.

[Mysoft] *cameras

[oiaohm] gigaherz: please note that 1 mm at perfect focus and object on horizon in perfect focus is in 1 shot/capture.

[Mysoft] hehe

[Mysoft] doing that on a movie would be harsh

[Mysoft] but how fast you can take those shots?

[gigaherz] oiaohm: maybe, but you can't reconstruct the depth information so that you can add distance-based blur in editing

[gigaherz] which is what I was thinking when I mentioned lightfield

[Mysoft] a 3D camera

[Mysoft] that capture a Z buffer image

[Mysoft] would be a miracle :P

[gigaherz] yes but how do you capture that Z?

[Mysoft] bat style!

[gigaherz] you either need 2 cameras, or you need radar/lidar

[gigaherz] and both methods have severe limitations

[gigaherz] meanwhile

[gigaherz] a lightfield camera just needs a special microlens array

[Mysoft] well even our own sight for those have severe limitations

[gigaherz] so that each pixel captures light from a very specific direction

[gigaherz] you DO need more pixels to make up for that

[oiaohm] gigaherz: when using 2 cameras to get Z using Frazier lens is kind important because focus blur vary bady effects ablity to calculate Z

[gigaherz] but it lets you reconstruct focus from the information

[gigaherz] oiaohm: makes sense

[gigaherz] note that I'm not saying that's bad

[gigaherz] I was just saying that cheap lightfield will be awesome, when it happens ;P

[oiaohm] gigaherz: last time I checked the adobe light fields they had a depth limit. ie unable to do the 1mm to horizon stuff.

[gigaherz] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-field_camera

[gigaherz] this doesn't mention adobe anywhere

[oiaohm] gigaherz: but of course this could be like Frazier Lens where the good version is restricted.

[gigaherz] so not sure what adobe's light-field stuff is