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[drakonis] 24 years ago
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[Mysoft] so by rushing technology out like that
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[Mysoft] drakonis i was giving a example
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[Mysoft] in a smaller scale
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[Mysoft] so you can't understand exactly
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[drakonis] its a shit example
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[Mysoft] no it's not
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[Mysoft] the shit is you
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[drakonis] what did you really clone
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[Mysoft] that can't understand how big that is
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[drakonis] oh no, poor me
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[drakonis] i can't understand how cool it is to backport an game from 92 to 82
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[Mysoft] as i made a game that requires 12mhz and a 286 and 350kb of ram
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[drakonis] people do that as an sport since the dawn of computers
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[Mysoft] to run on a machine that was 0.896mhz and 64kb of ram... and that did not even had a "pc speaker" or "adlib" for the sound
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[drakonis] how much did you have to remove in order to do that?
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[Mysoft] so it had to be synthesized
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[drakonis] also did you know that commander keen existed?
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[drakonis] how much did you trade in order to do that?
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[Mysoft] and the original game is 16 colors (in VGA) mode it's probabily among the best 16 colors i ever seen
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[sanchaez] Mysoft: lol you just removed the sound
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[drakonis] well, the lack of speakers probably made it easier to do the job
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[sanchaez] Removing the experience
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[Mysoft] no sanchaez
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[Mysoft] i made it trough a synthesizer
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[drakonis] it reduced the ram required
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[dandelion] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBG-sKFaB0
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[dandelion] please
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[drakonis] seriously i have no idea why you're bragging so much about it
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[drakonis] see .kkrieger
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[Mysoft] dandelion that's different
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[Mysoft] that is not requiring 96kb
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[drakonis] no it isn't
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[Mysoft] of ram
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[Mysoft] and that is using a GPU
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[Mysoft] and a VERY POWERFUL ONE btw
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[dandelion] old school
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[dandelion] still someting
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[Mysoft] so no... i had no ram to waste
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[drakonis] the real requirements for .kkrieger are 300mb of data
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[Mysoft] in part i could save some ram because the GFX is now 4 colors instead of 16 colors
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[drakonis] y'know
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[Mysoft] because 4 colors is what i can get on the old machine
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[drakonis] that's how they felt back in the day
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[sanchaez] I get why you brag about bad code
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[drakonis] maximize the gains
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[drakonis] i sincerely don't know why you're ripping on people
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[sanchaez] But I don't get why you shouldn't use more RAM
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[Mysoft] but then again i used the NTSC artifacts to make it look as best as possible so those 4 colors on TV look nice
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[drakonis] sanchaez, he thinks that we should stay in the stone age of computers forever soooo
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[Mysoft] no
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[sanchaez] Mysoft: but you could shrink it even more by not using 4 colors, 4 colors is waste!
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[Mysoft] well i'm actually using 1bpp which only get colors due NTSC artifacts
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[sanchaez] Why waste ram with useless textures anyway, use characters!
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[drakonis] roguelikes!
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[dandelion] btw, remember, xbox (I) had 64M ram ( and reactos )
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[Mysoft] sanchaez i actually did that :)
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[Mysoft] i made a GB emulator on DOS
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[Mysoft] running in text mode :)
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[dandelion] https://www.reactos.org/wiki/Install_ReactOS_on_XBox
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[sanchaez] That's useless
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[dandelion] good resource management is good for any OS
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[dandelion] if this si all about
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[sanchaez] So then you still wasted RAM on that machine
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[Mysoft] that machine is not a multitask machine
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[Mysoft] so there was nothing else to use that
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[sanchaez] It's like using 3 GB of ram in modern times
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[Mysoft] no it's not
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[Mysoft] because machines are not SET
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[Mysoft] and if you could make something that requires 300mb
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[Mysoft] but it end requiring 3gb
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[Mysoft] you're forcing someone to use a new machine
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[Mysoft] out of your laziness
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[Mysoft] of doing it properly
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[drakonis] hmmm
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[Mysoft] so now that's a waste...
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[Mysoft] and if would be one thing... if they released a first version
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[Mysoft] that would not be polished enough that would require 3gb
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[Mysoft] and then LATER improve that
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[sanchaez] Your backporting example is invalid