Talula
Nice excuse for not knowing.
Stefan
if you count object metadata it might not be a few bytes
Stefan
and that's why java eats a lot of memory
Talula
Maybe you didn't read what I said, I do not like java.
Talula
But if you're going to make a GUI application, it's better to use Java than C
Stefan
Maybe you didn't read what I said, I do not like java.
and you said java is simpler and c is hard, which is contradictory to what you said
Talula
and you said java is simpler and c is hard, which is contradictory to what you said
Yes it's simpler if you don't want to work with WM_ messages in Windows and signals in Linux...
Stefan
that's application specific stuff
Stefan
is it about language?
Talula
C is simpler for sure.
Talula
C is the simplest language I have ever used...
Stefan
then why you'd say java is simpler
Talula
For GUI development...
Talula
It's simpler...
Talula
What's your age?
Stefan
For GUI development...
homie next time you should say java is simpler in gui application than what can be done in c, not that java as a language is simpler to c
Anonymous
C is the simplest language I have ever used...
😳😳😳 Our lecturer told us C is difficult than C++
Stefan
What's your age?
does it really fucking matter?
many
C is simpler if you know what you're doing. And usually C guys have a better understanding than Java guys
Talula
does it really fucking matter?
Is that even a comparission, as a Language Java is simpler but as a tool C compiles to native code that means programs are faster, Java compiles precompiled binaries, which are slow. "Java is simpler but as a tool"
Anonymous
Your lecturer is wrong
Oh 😳 idk C language I am learning c++ now
Talula
As a language "no" but as a tool "yes"...
Anonymous
I think y'all are good at c++ , ryt?
Talula
Doing complex things in C is complex even if the language is simpler... but doing similar thing in Java is simpler...
Stefan
As a language "no" but as a tool "yes"...
as a Language, Java is simpler, but as a tool, C compiles to native code that means programs are faster
Stefan
your premise is wrong already such that your following argument doesn't matter
Anonymous
Oh 😳 idk C language I am learning c++ now
Thats fine^^ But you should have a little look at the principles of C, cause it helps to understand many details of C++
Talula
But learn some manners... really...
Anonymous
And understanding whats happening under you is allways good
Stefan
Doing complex things in C is complex even if the language is simpler... but doing similar thing in Java is simpler...
i don't care about how doing complex thing is difficult in c, but the syntax of c is definitely simpler than the syntax of java
Talula
many
Many java guys chose java because they couldn't handle C/C++
Anonymous
java is much more complex than C++
Anonymous
to be completely honest
many
If we had python and JS popular at that time, those people would have chosen python and JS
Anonymous
Oh no, enterprise apps in Node.Js - Oof
Dima
LOL
Dima
awful
Talula
Funny thing is today I was checking something called "native script" it's NodeJS for Mobile...
many
I've met some experienced java guys and their attitude to programming is "just make it work"
Stefan
but with typescript
Anonymous
I think the Node.JS community is weird and most of them don't know what software design is. Little example: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd
Stefan
nativescript is not using node
Anonymous
I know, thats a funny meme, but the weekly downloads aren't funny anymore... Oof
Stefan
nativescript is not using node
it is javascriptcore not v8 in ios edit: no it is platform specific
Talula
can you stop
Hey I just saw it today... can you stop it and correct me rather than being asshole all the time?
Jonathan
Hey everyone, I would like to mention that I am a junior Dev, just finished C programming training. I'm a little intimidated to ask here after reading the pinned post, however, after trying my luck with duckduckgo, I'm a little dissatisfied with the results. So, in hope that someone among you has experience maybe I could be pointed at the right direction. I would like to build an IM application with end to end encryption, something in the line of telegram. And I was wondering if I would to use C to develop it, what technological tools (frameworks, SQL language, etc... would fit best with a C back end), would I need to use ? I have tried to my best to formulate my question, even a link to a blog would suffice, I just haven't been lucky or smart enough to understand what I would need to use. Thank you so much for your time and effort, cheers 😅
Jonathan
Are you sure C is a good language choice for that?
I'm not sure at all I guess python would be easier, however, this is a practice in knowledge not a means to an end
Talula
are you sure you want to make a search engine?
Pst... "I would like to build an IM application with end to end encryption, something in the line of telegram."
Talula
Telegram is written in C++ with QT
Talula
If you wanna write it in C, best of luck because it'll take you like 5 years.
Dima
nodejs is funny
Talula
Because you're a new developer I would suggest using C#
Stefan
Talula
Install Visual Studio Community and use C#... it's like C (C++)... you can do visual programming in it.
Stefan
remember the leftpad thing
Talula
Talula
remember the leftpad thing
Learn to read between the lines... 😜
many
Is there anything code of conduct for JS community?
Jonathan
Talula
Sister...