Anonymous
olli
visual studio is too complex
no.. depends on what you need
BinaryByter
Alessio
so change
It's the third ide I'm trying
Anonymous
no.. depends on what you need
windows is too complex
Anonymous
olli
windows is too complex
no.. again, depends on what you need How should it be too complex?
BinaryByter
complexity is imaginary 🤔
Anonymous
my main languages now are Racket Haskell and ASM
Anonymous
x86_64 ASM to be precise
Paras
Asm is soooo difficult.
Anonymous
olli
it has too many buttons
that's like a really bad definition of complex...
Paras
Registers this and registers that
BinaryByter
BinaryByter
it is basic
BinaryByter
but not too difficult
Anonymous
asm is the simplest language i know of
BinaryByter
i actually agreed with you once
Joe
why do you need to convert?
I thought send() of the socket function just uses strings, thats why I used it.. am i wrong?
Anonymous
no
Anonymous
socket functions do not use C++
Anonymous
they use C
BinaryByter
there is bound to be a socket wrapper for C++
Anonymous
there is bound to be a socket wrapper for C++
not that i found when i was making a C++ application
Anonymous
socket is that magical thing that we keep in C
BinaryByter
i will write a c++ wrapper for it
Joe
socket functions do not use C++
so there is no C++ implementation for socket? 😳
Anonymous
you likely do not know enough about sockets
Anonymous
and will just mess it up
Anonymous
Qt has a C++ version of it but it uses QStrings
Joe
ok interesting
Anonymous
Boost.Asio has some
Anonymous
but i found it is also shit
Anonymous
the best is just the standard C one
BinaryByter
Anonymous
there is not a standard C++ one because most people do not know enough about socket programming
BinaryByter
well thanks
if theres one thing Ive learned from the conversations with you is not to take advice from you though
Anonymous
well then you will likely have to learn about how to handle TCP congestion control
Joe
damn did i just start a fight between zou guys because of my retarded questions 😂
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_congestion_control
Anonymous
so have fun doing this
BinaryByter
i will have a lot of fun :D
Joe
haha
Anonymous
i start arguments with everyone
Anonymous
E V E R Y O N E
Anonymous
well it depends what you mean by wrapper
Anonymous
if you just mean having a class that sends stuff and all this
BinaryByter
well it depends what you mean by wrapper
wrapper != i rewrite it from scratch
Anonymous
i made a few of these
BinaryByter
get your lingo right
Anonymous
and i could send these
Anonymous
as soon as i get rid of my name from them
Anonymous
let the kernel do everything except sending and receiving
Anonymous
I don't want to know how to deal with the tcp congestion
Anonymous
too complex
no it's simple
olli
too complex
too many buttons again?
Anonymous
buttons scare me
Anonymous
it's too many syscalls for him this time xD
Anonymous
there is like only 2
olli
it's too many syscalls for him this time xD
you cannot transfer data over the network without syscalls (from user mode)...
Anonymous
but the buttons
Anonymous
if you use temple os
Anonymous
or shrine
Anonymous
olli
https://github.com/minexew/Shrine thank me later
temple-os is ring-0 only and DOES NOT have user space
Anonymous
fun fact actually Holy C was made with inspiration from C++