it's either the question is too difficult and time-wasting for most people to answer, either that the question is too simple for the small part of people who are at the top of a field to answer.

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and I think if you are that small part of people who are at the top of a field, you deserve to spend your time on something that might be more contributing to the world and such

They already scroll tg if they read it

Null point tbh

Not like you DM him with 'saar pliz anser mi saar'

welp, you know, smart people tend to "hide themselves" and be low-key profile

"smart" people aren't really hiding themselves. They aren't different from you in any way except for their experience and knowledge — they are humans just the same way you are. So I mean, as long as you have at least some skill of interhuman comunication, you can engage in information gathering from those people - and they will benefit too, mainly in polishing their knowledge and realizing themselves by helping others

I don't even know now what this discussion is about? are we disputing on something

I gave an answer on why IT chats became dead

I don't even know now what this discussion is about? are we disputing on something

And we have exhibit #1 over here that went onto asking AI on the daily to "not bother others"

To further ground my theory

You gave a sentiment, I gave an explanation

I don't even know now what this discussion is about? are we disputing on something

I mean, I want people to still go to the chats and ask real people to pass real-life knowledge, that's what I am arguing for

and it's impossible for a developer (be they self-taught or professional) to not use chatgpt on a daily base; I bet you use it daily too

okay, i see, as long as you don't mind, i would like to go on chats asking questions

and it's impossible for a developer (be they self-taught or professional) to not use chatgpt on a daily base; I bet you use it daily too

Uh... No? I don't. I have turned off all AI assistants in all my editors/IDEs just because of how annoying they are and of how little use they were

although i really think chatgpt is enough for solving basic questions. and it's kinda difficult to generate non-basic questions, i would say

and it's impossible for a developer (be they self-taught or professional) to not use chatgpt on a daily base; I bet you use it daily too

I don't I just read docs and look up samples, which is already quite easily found by prompting your search engine, anything more difficult AI frankly can't really do well.

There are cases where you are too lazy to find what you need in the source code

So you need pseudocode from AI

yes, sir...

besides, i have the dyslexia/reading difficulty problem

although i really think chatgpt is enough for solving basic questions. and it's kinda difficult to generate non-basic questions, i would say

Agreed, but basic questions are also answered by various articles and tutorials. And usage of AI kinda kills your ability to read and analyze info yourself. And you study more efficiently when you analyze the info, not just read the summary and memorize it

Agreed, but basic questions are also answered by various articles and tutorials. And usage of AI kinda kills your ability to read and analyze info yourself. And you study more efficiently when you analyze the info, not just read the summary and memorize it

Also if you share your problem in the chat other people have a chance of learning about it prior to it happening to them

That's why stack overflow with issues that other people have had is gold tbh

They have already spent their time on it for you

Agreed, but basic questions are also answered by various articles and tutorials. And usage of AI kinda kills your ability to read and analyze info yourself. And you study more efficiently when you analyze the info, not just read the summary and memorize it

There is also the loss of stumbling upon possible useful collateral information . AI only feeds you what you ask, But when you do research yourself you can branch off in different topics that, you may not even know that you didn't know about them .

🥲 on the other hand, you have to admit there’s the “individual discrepancy and discretion”, some individuals are more comfortable with one method that helps them learn, some individuals some other methods…

and it's impossible for a developer (be they self-taught or professional) to not use chatgpt on a daily base; I bet you use it daily too

Absolutely not true, I use GPT very rarely, and the times I've use it it mostly leads to frustrating loops and hallucinations that then make me do my research myself. That's because the topics that make me go to GPT are niche and because they are niche there is naturally low amounts of data on them and lower amounts of it have made it to the GPTs training data, and where AI does not have data it just hallucinates stuff .

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Guys ,which are the best C++ books which someone should start reading with,for best understanding

Only give suggestions ,if you have read that book

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nope, it was in response to Asta2

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Guys ,which are the best C++ books which someone should start reading with,for best understanding

Imo Steven Prata's "C++ Primer Plus" is a pretty solid start, if you are talking about beginners

Guys ,which are the best C++ books which someone should start reading with,for best understanding

If you are thinking of something advanced to read - Alexandrescu's "Modern C++ Design" is a pretty influential book, though quite an old one. And I am not sure there's any book except the specification if you want to know about the features of the latest standards

Oh, i didn't know about those books, but i'll check them out. I've been learning for a couple of weeks while working on a small project. It's not perfect, but it's helping me a lot

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Don't ask meta questions. In other words, don't ask to ask. Questions like "Does anyone know XYZ?", "Has anyone used XYZ?" or "Can someone help me?" are all considered meta questions because they don't specify what your actual problem is. These questions give the impression that you want people to approach you and offer their help as if they don't have any other work to do. Now doesn't that expectation make you look like an idiot? If you have a question ask it directly. You are more likely to get a response that way.

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Sorry, mind-readers are on the vacation now. We will need at least MRE to tell you what may be wrong. Are you using stdio or iostreams? Didn't you forget the flushing (or std::endl)?

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Well, then I have no idea what's wrong without the actual code

No

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Are Arduino questions also possible to be asked here👀 Arduino projects are also written in C++, am I right?

Are Arduino questions also possible to be asked here👀 Arduino projects are also written in C++, am I right?

Depends. If you are using Wiring (default Arduino IDE framework), then yeah, it's basically C++ with Arduino.h autoincluded. But you can also write for Arduino in C, Rust, Zig or whatever obscure programming language you may be into and that supports AVR/ARM target (also depends on the exact board you have)

😕okay. I think I have only written it in C++, don’t even know how to trigger other cases

😕okay. I think I have only written it in C++, don’t even know how to trigger other cases

Don't worry then. And yeah, I guess you can try asking here if you have Arduino-related C++ project but you may or may not receive help depending if there is anybody with relevant experience

But I do think the natal IDE for Arduino has a tormenting readability and controllability. I see many people are using platform IO instead in VS code but I worry that some libraries are not as well supported in platform IO as they are in the natal IDE of Arduino, someone would like to tell me that my worry is unnecessary and I should definitely try platform IO? I have a gut feeling that platform IO will get more lagging than the natal IDE, 🤔 true?

But I do think the natal IDE for Arduino has a tormenting readability and controllability. I see many people are using platform IO instead in VS code but I worry that some libraries are not as well supported in platform IO as they are in the natal IDE of Arduino, someone would like to tell me that my worry is unnecessary and I should definitely try platform IO? I have a gut feeling that platform IO will get more lagging than the natal IDE, 🤔 true?

Well, actually you don't even need platform i0 - all those "IDEs" are only calling several CLI commands under the hood, which is handy but isn't strictly unnecessary (you can do it all yourself). And as far as I know all of those libraries are open-source and written in C++ anyway, so while acquiring them through IDE is easier, it's not the only way

But I do think the natal IDE for Arduino has a tormenting readability and controllability. I see many people are using platform IO instead in VS code but I worry that some libraries are not as well supported in platform IO as they are in the natal IDE of Arduino, someone would like to tell me that my worry is unnecessary and I should definitely try platform IO? I have a gut feeling that platform IO will get more lagging than the natal IDE, 🤔 true?

I suggest you learn avr-libc avr-gcc and avrdude .

I suggest you learn avr-libc avr-gcc and avrdude .

...as long as you have time and enthuiasm. Sticking to IDE is fine too

Well, actually you don't even need platform i0 - all those "IDEs" are only calling several CLI commands under the hood, which is handy but isn't strictly unnecessary (you can do it all yourself). And as far as I know all of those libraries are open-source and written in C++ anyway, so while acquiring them through IDE is easier, it's not the only way

I see. I will have to stick on IDE since I don’t interfere much with deeper level of programming and currently a user-friendly interface is still important for me. Thanks for the info🐾

I suggest you learn avr-libc avr-gcc and avrdude .

Nice suggestion. First time hearing the terms. Are they related to sudo?

Nice suggestion. First time hearing the terms. Are they related to sudo?

No. They are the utilities you use when working with AVR microprocessors

Nice suggestion. First time hearing the terms. Are they related to sudo?

AVR is the CPU architecture of most Arduino cards, avr-gcc is a C and C++ compiler set for AVR microprocessors

avr-libc is a C standard library for those same microprocessors

avrdude is a utility to flash a microprocessor with new code

Didn’t know that there’s even a library called AVR for the microprocessors themselves. But I guess the libraries are mostly used when you trying to “build” the microprocessor itself as opposed to the libraries built upon a microprocessor to make other functions work right?

...as long as you have time and enthuiasm. Sticking to IDE is fine too

Virtually every AVR IDE uses avr-gcc and avrdude . Once you learn them it will be easy to switch between different environments . They are 2 simple commands nothing much to learn for a standard scenario .

Didn’t know that there’s even a library called AVR for the microprocessors themselves. But I guess the libraries are mostly used when you trying to “build” the microprocessor itself as opposed to the libraries built upon a microprocessor to make other functions work right?

Try researching libc, executable static/dynamic linking and standard libraries. It will be useful for understanding

Didn’t know that there’s even a library called AVR for the microprocessors themselves. But I guess the libraries are mostly used when you trying to “build” the microprocessor itself as opposed to the libraries built upon a microprocessor to make other functions work right?

https://github.com/m3y54m/start-avr Here is a guide .

Didn’t know that there’s even a library called AVR for the microprocessors themselves. But I guess the libraries are mostly used when you trying to “build” the microprocessor itself as opposed to the libraries built upon a microprocessor to make other functions work right?

No, libc is a standard library that would be generally provided with any implementation of the C or C++ language if the platform can accomodate it

Those library generally constitute the building blocks of IO, string handling, memory management and advanced arithmetic

Let me see, when will I need to “build” a microprocessor 🤔 so when you like, trying to put the chip of esp 32 and other electronic components like resistors and such together, you… hmm… I guess it’s not related to building the microprocessor itself right