Rust is also now taking place on android and linux kernal

And yeah i meant "beast" in terms of extremely massive and complex and thus can do pretty much anything somehow

And yeah i meant "beast" in terms of extremely massive and complex and thus can do pretty much anything somehow

Yeah, I meant the same C++ is surely powerful but it's surely too old as well

like C++ is truely a bit like Frankesteins monster lol. But there is a "modern" part of C++ and you can choose to only use that portion of the language

but you can also choose to pretty much write C

Slowly rust will be used on place of c/c++

like C++ is truely a bit like Frankesteins monster lol. But there is a "modern" part of C++ and you can choose to only use that portion of the language

Much like Java is (but better tbh)

But having a knowledge of c/c++ is great benefit

but you can also choose to pretty much write C

which is very bad

You can jump on another language easily

But having a knowledge of c/c++ is great benefit

I don't agree

Why that

You can jump on another language easily

just because of the syntax, not because of the features (luckily and hopefully)

Oh

Did you guys know about TempleOS?

which is very bad

I like that freedom. If you want to change the calling convetion in Rust / have inline asm or just anything C++ trusts you with you will most likely have a hard time compiling that in Rust. I only did simple things in Rust so far tho.

Did you guys know about TempleOS?

I know

Did you guys know about TempleOS?

Sure lol. Only kernel mode gg Terry 😅

That was a genius man

I like that freedom. If you want to change the calling convetion in Rust / have inline asm or just anything C++ trusts you with you will most likely have a hard time compiling that in Rust. I only did simple things in Rust so far tho.

Oh it's not the procedural thing that bothers me, but rather its ancient / obsolete development patterns.

You guys wanna listen templeos soundtrack?

May i send here?

Oh it's not the procedural thing that bothers me, but rather its ancient / obsolete development patterns.

I think this topic is relative to the people, no need to be true at all

May i send here?

No, very disturbing for my house 🤣

Sure lol. Only kernel mode gg Terry 😅

well we can say he was "high" for his scope. sorry, terrible joke.

I can't send here 😂

I think this topic is relative to the people, no need to be true at all

Except, it IS true and it is why C++ arised (and any other alternative tbh)

well you can choose to not use them^^. Like if your sick of headers, just use modules... i get your point but i think you can choose to develop in a modern way in C++. Even tho. it has artifacts from the past you dont have to use it. But you still can if you see fit. I think thats great about C++

there were better languages than C already, right before C

but it was invented just because Unix.

So?

So?

So, we could have developed better software, in less time and with less pain

obviously this is a conjecture

No pain no gain lol

No pain no gain. This is an advertisement in my country 😅

Which one is complex Python or C++

Which one is complex Python or C++

Im so cunfuse 😳

Python is easy man

But yeah. I get your point. I still hope C++ stays around. I just love that you can do whatever you want. I dont get that feeling of freedom and stupidity from any other language

On c/c++ you have to handle so much things yourself

But yeah. I get your point. I still hope C++ stays around. I just love that you can do whatever you want. I dont get that feeling of freedom and stupidity from any other language

I think you should really check the D language.

Which one is complex Python or C++

Ok what is the good programming language for on game app

I should. Never heard of it 😅

Ok what is the good programming language for on game app

Android only?

Ok what is the good programming language for on game app

Both are good but both have so much things to compare

From garbage management to performance

Ok what is the good programming language for on game app

For android: you can use unity, unreal and java

I should. Never heard of it 😅

It was created for enterprise, and as a replacement of C++. It took the best of C++ and the best of others like Java and Rust. And it features autopointers and memory borrowing.

it is now fully open source.

Ok what is the good programming language for on game app

Eg C,C++,java or python

and interacts just great with C/C++ code.

i want the D now

it is now fully open source.

Wait, so D was not open source before?

and interacts just great with C/C++ code.

It's still used? I heard about that but never looked

Wait, so D was not open source before?

nope.

nope.

I never saw closed source programming language 🤔

I never saw closed source programming language 🤔

many DSLs are closed source.

Yah d lang is still active

Looks great

Yah d lang is still active

what do you mean by "still" ?

Anyway I really hope for D to win against Rust, at least for webassembly.

I recently checked

But why d is so underrated?

Sad

But why d is so underrated?

because its marketing is bad

though. It has good sponsors like Netflix and Ebay.

Which data member?

If you want to pass the value by reference make sure the argument is a pointer like int *p Pass the variable by reference to it, like binarySearch(&num.... Then you can use that reference to find the information and change the value of it if you need to.

Anyway I really hope for D to win against Rust, at least for webassembly.

It probably won't. Rust is growing very fast. Rust is a good language but it also has some flaws. Rust will never beat high end C/C++ performance but that's fine the most cases... C/C++ will probably stay for low level stuff where Rust will take the high performance application area like for example games...

It probably won't. Rust is growing very fast. Rust is a good language but it also has some flaws. Rust will never beat high end C/C++ performance but that's fine the most cases... C/C++ will probably stay for low level stuff where Rust will take the high performance application area like for example games...

I'm pretty sure D won't win against Rust in desktop development. I meant for webassembly

I like Rust, but I think the web doesn't need its complexity.

It probably won't. Rust is growing very fast. Rust is a good language but it also has some flaws. Rust will never beat high end C/C++ performance but that's fine the most cases... C/C++ will probably stay for low level stuff where Rust will take the high performance application area like for example games...

there seems to be a serious attempt to bring rust to the linux kernel https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 [linus response] https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1023 [more info]

The quote of Rust "Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software" is a good term but I think they already made it too complex to keep that quote 🤣

The quote of Rust "Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software" is a good term but I think they already made it too complex to keep that quote 🤣

yeah I agree

I like Rust, but I think the web doesn't need its complexity.

That's absolutely true. They made it too complex too early. If they continue it will end in a mess like C/C++...

A B \ / C / \ D E In classes D and E, I getting the error ("some var" is not a nonstatic data member or base class of class "some class") when I initialize the variables using initializer list, but when I use the body of the constructor this-> var = var works perfectly. It doesn't looks a Dreadful Diamond on Derivation problem for me

That's absolutely true. They made it too complex too early. If they continue it will end in a mess like C/C++...

I would really prefer D 😭

there seems to be a serious attempt to bring rust to the linux kernel https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 [linus response] https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1023 [more info]

Yeah but it does not sound good for Rust. It's true Rust hides a lot of memory stuff and you don't want that at kernelspace

I would really prefer D 😭

I've never used D but it sounds interesting..

I've never used D but it sounds interesting..

It's far better than anything I ever tried (my opinion).