Dark
WinApi is piece of shit
Your right it is but it’s the only thing I have
Anonymous
Your right it is but it’s the only thing I have
You have no access to the internet to download Qt?
Dave
You do not
I can program on python
V01D
Devs should i learn C or C++
What do you want to do?
Anonymous
You do not need to learn C or C++
Anonymous
Why?
What do you want to do with code that you cannot do with Python?
Dark
You have no access to the internet to download Qt?
As I stated before I can’t use QT because I need this to run with as little dependence’s as possible
Dark
Why do you need that?
Because I want one exe file not lots of dll files
J
y0, let me tell you about how i deployed all that Qt5 onto all my remote Windows CE kiosks, running on my baby 800mhz SoCs from the previous century
Dave
well c/c++ is 10x faster than python
V01D
Devs should i learn C or C++
For game development I would use C++, and for kernels, drivers, rootkits, webservers, etc. Note: C and C++ are similar, and C++ is not recommended for really low level stuff like kernels because it can get a little messy. C -> ROP C++ -> OOP (Also a little safer in terms of pointers, C++ trys to manage that as best it can for you)
Dark
Look I want to make a Packer as well some point too. But I will build up to it
V01D
Just follow your intuition man
J
I prefer not to develop for unsupported platforms by their developers
yeah, tell me all about that when you're working with 20 years of legacy in a company, and need to support disconnected devices.
J
lol, you'd think that
Dark
Just follow your intuition man
Well I kinda pulled out a PE injection. But that was difficult
Anonymous
yeah, tell me all about that when you're working with 20 years of legacy in a company, and need to support disconnected devices.
I do not work with such platforms And I'd prefer to quit the company than working with such platforms
J
yeah, that occurred to me
Alex
Yeah
what do you mean C -> ROP? what is the issue with C++ -> ROP?
J
ROP is not a thing
Anonymous
I do not want my ass burning down because of 30 yo bugs in WinApi
J
it's not an actual programming discipline or paradigm of programming. it's an explotation technique.
Alex
C++ has classes and objects
and what? I can use ROP as well
V01D
J
if you ever do use that as an actual programming technique, to write software, as it's intended to work - please just look for a different job
V01D
What is C then? Not oop
Dave
Should now i know python what should learn next
Alex
What is C then? Not oop
procedural programming(also OOP is possible also)
J
an imperative programming language
Anonymous
Should now i know python what should learn next
https://t.me/programminginc/323858
J
it's organized into statements that describe algorithmic steps of a program
Anonymous
and what? I can use ROP as well
oop or rop ? rop is technique for bypass aslr |:
Dave
https://t.me/programminginc/323858
Yo what the fuck is wrong with u man?
Anonymous
Yo what the fuck is wrong with u man?
/warn Yo what the fuck is wrong with u man?
V01D
Uhh
Anonymous
lmao
Dave
I just ask a question and u insulting me?
J
rephrase your question. starting with 'what the fuck is wrong with u' is not a way you ask questions.
Dark
It is advanced topic
Well I made malware for fun and to test my skills. Anyway to evade the AV. I have learned more from writing and decompiling malware then any book has ever told me. I learned - Dll Injection - WriteProcessMemory - PE Injection - Packing (hoping to learn more soon) - Infecting Files (hoping to learn more) - Process Hollowing - Basic XOR encryption stub So I have lots to learn but I don’t do it for evil. I do it to learn. Most people find it weird that I love to write software and no one wants. But it’s a hobby I love
Dave
No one insults you
I ask a question n u were telling me to learn to be a real man dats an inslut
Dark
Lol, its cool. I am an ex hacker and I wrote malware before too
For me. I want to advance my skills. Like that’s why I said that I can’t use QT
Dark
I am trying to make ransomware using C++. I am making a GUI to go with that. Hence why I mentioned Crypto API
V01D
Dont learn QT if you wanna write malware, that is just stupid. (Unless you want to make linux ransomware)
Dave
is the malware for windows
Dark
Dont learn QT if you wanna write malware, that is just stupid. (Unless you want to make linux ransomware)
I am working in a Windows VM and my malware samples are stored on an encrypted drive
V01D
I am trying to make ransomware using C++. I am making a GUI to go with that. Hence why I mentioned Crypto API
It would be funny if you made a kernel mode driver to encrypt the bootloader, mbr or something. (Look at address 0x7c00 for the bootloadee)
Dave
Yes
Then u visual basic
Dark
Then u visual basic
Haha hahah no
Dark
Visual Basic can be easily decompiled
Dave
Why u host the real code on a server then execute it with like an HID attack
V01D
I wanted to work up to the boot loader
Then learn some assembly, inline assembly, and memory managment. Oh and segmentation is important to.
Dark
@admin get rid of slow mode it’s annoying
Dark
Then learn some assembly, inline assembly, and memory managment. Oh and segmentation is important to.
Anyway as I was saying. I want to lock the boot loader but that’s a hard job
Dark
Plus I need away to bypass UAC
V01D
Unless you try the most recent exploit
V01D
Dunno what it is called tho