neb
What's wrong with vim or emacs?
Sourabh
Yeah, that's true.
Anonymous
Define an IDE
I think it's more subjective to the feature one needs.
You can automate the compilation, debug through gdb, and a lot more. Vim is a lot extensible with Linters, autocompletions. I don't see why it "lacks" according to you.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Define an IDE
I think it's more subjective to the feature one needs.
You can automate the compilation, debug through gdb, and a lot more. Vim is a lot extensible with Linters, autocompletions. I don't see why it "lacks" according to you.
You automate compilation not with Vim but with external tools suck as make/cmake
Anonymous
I'm talking about custom keybindings. And things such as compile on save
I haven't had a need of a profiler yet.
Anonymous
Define an IDE
I think it's more subjective to the feature one needs.
You can automate the compilation, debug through gdb, and a lot more. Vim is a lot extensible with Linters, autocompletions. I don't see why it "lacks" according to you.
And yeah, you have to install and configure it manually
IDE works right out of the box in most cases with most needed features
Anonymous
And yeah, you have to install and configure it manually
IDE works right out of the box in most cases with most needed features
Does that not means you're free to finetune it as per your needs.
Why keep bloated features which you're likely never gonna use.
If you know what you need, you can add it right there in vim.
Anonymous
I don't lack any space in my SSD or RAM, I have enough CPU power
Why would I sacrifice a gigabyte of SSD to get a console text editor which is useless if I do not configure it instead of having full-featured IDE which works right out of the box?
Anonymous
As I said, it's subjective.
If you don't like it, doesn't means it's not worthy for the others.
Morden IDE have all, even vim shortcuts but the vimscript ;)
Anonymous
As I said, it's subjective.
If you don't like it, doesn't means it's not worthy for the others.
Morden IDE have all, even vim shortcuts but the vimscript ;)
Does Vim have feature called "Go to Definition/Declaration" and if yes, can it work properly with chromium-large like code bases? I do not think so
Anonymous
I can't call any large company that uses code editor like Vim instead of IDE with C/C++
Anonymous
Does Vim have feature called "Go to Definition/Declaration" and if yes, can it work properly with chromium-large like code bases? I do not think so
Yes, there are plugins for that
And yes you can. Vim has a minimal runtime and it has buffer support as well.
Anonymous
I can't call any large company that uses code editor like Vim instead of IDE with C/C++
Cause they don't want people to mess up with the architecture.
Most of the companies have a set of build tools and said idioms which the engineers are "supposed" to follow.
Indolent
Need help debug a 20 line code for a test case.
Anonymous
Cause they don't want people to mess up with the architecture.
Most of the companies have a set of build tools and said idioms which the engineers are "supposed" to follow.
Maybe just because it is useless waste of time — configuring an editor to act like an IDE? :)
Anonymous
The hard thing about vim is, it's a pain to teach someone who isn't familiar with it.
Why teach them when you can give em an easy to use editor? Saves money, yeah.
Anonymous
Well, it is offtopic rn
Anonymous
The topic is closed
Anonymous
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Because type void* can't be explicitly cast by compiler
It's exceptional situation? I worry about that i will can not use some features of c if will use it with c++. Due to c++ compiler forces. Do you could tell is it so or not?
Chernykh
Mar!o
It's exceptional situation? I worry about that i will can not use some features of c if will use it with c++. Due to c++ compiler forces. Do you could tell is it so or not?
No you can compile C with a C++ compiler...
Dima
why
Dima
repositories are boring
Mar!o
I can use c keywords like auto?
auto has a other meaning in C++: it is no storage class it is used for automatic types like var in C# or Java. Also register is not available
Mar!o
auto in C++ is more useful than C's auto lol
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Understod. Hence, i can't extern pure c. Only subset "c" for c++
Mar!o
Kinda. Why would you like to use C in C++?
Mar!o
But you can use .c files with extern "C" linkage from C++
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And i can use pure c? For example keyword "auto" of c
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Kinda. Why would you like to use C in C++?
I wanna use c, but i need OO sometime. Wanna use c++ like helper lang. But seems that i can't use pure c with c++. Not sure. Maybe it is possible?
Mar!o
Mar!o
Parra
I wanna use c, but i need OO sometime. Wanna use c++ like helper lang. But seems that i can't use pure c with c++. Not sure. Maybe it is possible?
you don't have VLA for example in c++
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Only in .c files
Of course. I mean, u sure that i can use pure c in c++ if will do extern "C"?
Parra
Of course. I mean, u sure that i can use pure c in c++ if will do extern "C"?
this affects only how the function is exported
Parra
removes the name mangling and follows the c abi specification
Parra
even using extern "C" you can mix c/c++ inside of the function
Parra
if you want pure c compile with std=c99 or c11
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if you want pure c compile with std=c99 or c11
And i can use pure c99 inside modern c++ (for example c++20)?
I hope you understand what i mean under "pure c".
If yes - how? With help "extern", right?
Mar!o
😡
Parra
And i can use pure c99 inside modern c++ (for example c++20)?
I hope you understand what i mean under "pure c".
If yes - how? With help "extern", right?
you could have a .h and .c, compile it with std=c11 and use it in a cpp file
Parra
you can also do the opposite meanwhile you expose a wrapper around c++ files with extern "C"
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you could have a .h and .c, compile it with std=c11 and use it in a cpp file
How i can use it in cpp file? After compile .c files
Mar!o
Parra
or build it as a library, i.e .so or .a, and link against it
Parra
for example, nodejs is mostly written in c++ and it uses libuv which is coded in c
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you could use the .o files directly
How? I was try compile c file in .o file and include it in .cpp file. But i got infinite loop of include (i don't know how it work)
Parra
you don't include it
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Just #include is not work
Mar!o
Parra
https://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/cpp/images/GCC_CompilationProcess.png
Parra
https://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/cpp/gcc_make.html
Parra
you see, .o and .a depend on linker, not compilation step
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How link it? With help gcc, as you told?
Parra
gcc -c file1.c
g++ -c file2.cpp
g++ -o myprog.exe file1.o file2.o
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read this
Ok. Now i have 100 tabs and vscode. After 20 min will read it. Forwarded it in faves
Parra
gcc -c file1.c
g++ -c file2.cpp
g++ -o myprog.exe file1.o file2.o
here's a way of doing it
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gcc -c file1.c
g++ -c file2.cpp
g++ -o myprog.exe file1.o file2.o
I already tryed it. g++ speak about that can't find function by name and it not exist
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Mb i should specify .h files?
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Oh. If it's true - i'm bad
Parra
and include it in both (c,cpp) files
Hermann
are there tools that allow you to draw protocols?