There is a beautiful language within C++ that is struggling to come out This is brilliant

Yeah Bjarne

C with classes ftw

You got this from the first time

Yeah Bjarne

Thanks 😘

C with classes ftw

Please no

Concept should a little bit more helpful and not lazy

Concept should a little bit more helpful and not lazy

Like Providing a compiler messages with the concept in case of SFINE breaking A

Well I like Kotlin more But I agree with you

We need C++ + Kotlin language

Also I think Rust is something big to learn. Iv'e written so much C#/C/C++ and it wasn't that easy to learn Rust for me. Why? Because they do so many thing TOO differently. Traits are basically compile time interfaces. So why not call them interfaces?! Then all the short keyword's like mut or impl are not helpful and self explaining too for a beginner. It is good to do things differently but not too much!

Also I think Rust is something big to learn. Iv'e written so much C#/C/C++ and it wasn't that easy to learn Rust for me. Why? Because they do so many thing TOO differently. Traits are basically compile time interfaces. So why not call them interfaces?! Then all the short keyword's like mut or impl are not helpful and self explaining too for a beginner. It is good to do things differently but not too much!

Concepts C++20 are compile-time interfaces :)

Like Providing a compiler messages with the concept in case of SFINE breaking A

B If you want to use ++ operator You must explicitly include IncrementOp concept

Like: you write the name first then the type integer : i32 why? If it would be the other way around it would align better. Also with mut it randonly changes sides: mut var : u32 or var : &mut u32

It's horrible

Like: you write the name first then the type integer : i32 why? If it would be the other way around it would align better. Also with mut it randonly changes sides: mut var : u32 or var : &mut u32

Well actually I like the way when types at rhs

Also I think Rust is something big to learn. Iv'e written so much C#/C/C++ and it wasn't that easy to learn Rust for me. Why? Because they do so many thing TOO differently. Traits are basically compile time interfaces. So why not call them interfaces?! Then all the short keyword's like mut or impl are not helpful and self explaining too for a beginner. It is good to do things differently but not too much!

I think the name "traits" is inspired from C++ type_traits headet since it has some similar basic functionality

Well actually I like the way when types at rhs

It is personal style and opinion of course some like it some not

Like: you write the name first then the type integer : i32 why? If it would be the other way around it would align better. Also with mut it randonly changes sides: mut var : u32 or var : &mut u32

No It's not It's absolutely soo clean In C++ you have many types of references

Universal reference Rvalue reference Lvalue reference. . . .

I mean Wtf

No It's not It's absolutely soo clean In C++ you have many types of references

I don't think so look at this: how it is: age : u8; some_other_value_with_long_identifier : str; some_very_important_value : u128; how it could be: u8 age; str some_other_value_with_long_identifier; u128 some_very_important_value;

YOu instantly see the type

But I like the trailing return types in Rust that's why I use them in C++ too

Universal reference Rvalue reference Lvalue reference. . . .

Yeah they fucked up the references. I think references are a good idea in general

Yeah but null checking sucks - you do not have to do that for references. References are better for Parameters

I don't think so look at this: how it is: age : u8; some_other_value_with_long_identifier : str; some_very_important_value : u128; how it could be: u8 age; str some_other_value_with_long_identifier; u128 some_very_important_value;

You just because you used to it You would prefer to know the variable name before it's type in complex codes And it's a function before its return type so your subconscious doesn't hold for a second to ask itself whether after this int is a function or a member function

I mean like Look at the SFINE in type_traits and all that cheap type checks

You just because you used to it You would prefer to know the variable name before it's type in complex codes And it's a function before its return type so your subconscious doesn't hold for a second to ask itself whether after this int is a function or a member function

Yeah of course I'm used to the C style since I've only written Languanes from the C family :P of course if I would switch to Rust it would change. Also I don't like the name: Rust. C++ or C# sounds cool, when I hear Rust I imagine an old rusty car

Universal reference Rvalue reference Lvalue reference. . . .

also they try to rename "universal references" to "forwarding references"

Yeah But after all that makes it a "Trait"

Universal reference was (I think) means to implement the perfect forwarding 🤔

Fuck C++ or Rust I will create my own system programming language! I hate it to depend on others!

Yeah, and some guys from the committee don't like him for that :) because they already had a name for this thing Also I think naming something "universal" it's like naming something "final", you don't know if there will be a new category in the future that doesn't fall into universal reference. Then some "more universal than universal" will be created Also "forwarding reference" tells much more about the purpose.

Fuck C++ or Rust I will create my own system programming language! I hate it to depend on others!

Lol. Good luck

Fuck C++ or Rust I will create my own system programming language! I hate it to depend on others!

Every developer should program on his own language :)

Fuck C++ or Rust I will create my own system programming language! I hate it to depend on others!

I like that type of thinking but really C++ fit my all purposes and even more Just a little bit and will be perfect

On his own OS in the perfect world :D

On his own OS in the perfect world :D

Hi Pavel, how are you

Every developer should program on his own language :)

I have created my own scripting language for my own VM for my own Game Engine - nothing will stop me!!! The problem is: I'm a crazy guy who is working in my own game company as the only programmer. We have modelers, designer and some gameplay programmer n00bs which are using my scripting language in the engine. Since it so very much code and I'm one person I can't just rewrite the systems so I want a future proof language. I would use Rust BUT it is less cross platform than C and if I would write the engine in Rust I would get overhead to the Vulkan C++ libraries!

But Rust is still not matured

Hi Pavel, how are you

Hey, I'm still alive

good xd

But Rust is still not matured

That's the problem

By the way, how would you rename std::move? I totally agree that's not the best name

By the way, how would you rename std::move? I totally agree that's not the best name

std::to_rvalue xD

Read the pattern matching Proposal in C++

Maybe more

Rust doesn't have downcasting yet

There are Proposal with it to have a wildcard _ as a built-in

Maybe If I create my own programming language I could just cheat and compile to C and Rust and use their opzimizations 🤣

Maybe If I create my own programming language I could just cheat and compile to C and Rust and use their opzimizations 🤣

Loooool

Since writing a compiler for each architecture is quite a lot of work

Yess

Maybe If I create my own programming language I could just cheat and compile to C and Rust and use their opzimizations 🤣

Just use LLVM :)

Since writing a compiler for each architecture is quite a lot of work

About that What is soool awesome about Rust is its compiler It's cross-platform

Mar!o++ vs C++

You don't need to follow OsDev anymore ;)

Just use LLVM :)

Good idea :) like Rust. And since it is used by Rust i think it is future proof

Mar!o++ vs C++

😂

And because I don't want to rewrite my legacy C++ or C code I will also write a C/C++ to my language converter. It's genius 🤣

xD

And because I don't want to rewrite my legacy C++ or C code I will also write a C/C++ to my language converter. It's genius 🤣

You just need a language that links with C++ sources

You just need a language that links with C++ sources

Yeah that's true - but I will change the linking and file system in my language but add C linking. Terry Davis would be proud xD now with this project I'm busy for the next years. Maybe I'm done when I'm 19 or 20. Hopefully...

Yeah that's true - but I will change the linking and file system in my language but add C linking. Terry Davis would be proud xD now with this project I'm busy for the next years. Maybe I'm done when I'm 19 or 20. Hopefully...

How old are you?

How old are you?

Just turned 18 in March. And you?

Haha 😄

Just turned 18 in March. And you?

20 When i was 18 i was stupid af

Well, at least for me, some of the examples look awful. Especially with red-black tree. It's like I'm reading a bunch of big nested ternary operators. I mean maybe after working with this pattern matching enough time it would be better, but by the first impression they seems to be kinda complex

20 When i was 18 i was stupid af

In school they think I'm stupid AF because it's boring. I see you are from Germany too. Hallo :) BUT.STOP.THATS.OFFTOPIC.AND.NOT.ALLOWED

In school they think I'm stupid AF because it's boring. I see you are from Germany too. Hallo :) BUT.STOP.THATS.OFFTOPIC.AND.NOT.ALLOWED

#ot

#ot

🤣

Well, at least for me, some of the examples look awful. Especially with red-black tree. It's like I'm reading a bunch of big nested ternary operators. I mean maybe after working with this pattern matching enough time it would be better, but by the first impression they seems to be kinda complex

Nothing is free I care about the variable binding Instead of checking if it's valid to get a value then call a function to get it

+ it lets you get to the deepest value inside your many functions calls

With an easy way

Madhu C++ has a pattern matching library Actually two or more xD

https://github.com/mpark/patterns/blob/master/README.md

Hello everyone How can u pin on cbar cloud in c++

I am gonna make a code which is a mix of C and CPP. It is for embedded system. Has anyone did this before?