Gregory
Maybe the only case when valid braced-init-list doesnt have max priority for choosing ctor
Hm, okay. I just remembered in S. Mayers book said that if the class has init_list c-tor, this c_tor always has prior
WarRi0rWiTh1n
Hi everyone
professor
Can i ask here asm stuff?
professor
#ot
Thanks
Alexander
Guys what next after when I finished to learn C language? What projects can I do for basic? Where I can find some functions to work with sound, graphic or with the system? Where do I find good easy projects to reading, learning and testing by myself? I have an idea for some projects, but I dont have any idea how to start.
Dima
lol you’ll never finish it
Dima
you’ll always learn it
Dima
C is just like that
Alexander
C is just like that
I know, but that what I want to do. I have some basics, but what now?
Asdew
Um just wiki it
No, please clarify it, you can mean many different things.
klimi
Ok
klimi
Wait I will just open my web browser
Asdew
Are you expecting him to make a kernel, a kernel with userland programs ported from other operating systems, userland programs for some kernel or what?
Alexander
practice, practice
If I need practice, I need making some projects.
klimi
Or templeOS
klimi
Or many community os
klimi
Or windows
Asdew
I don't understand.
klimi
I don't understand.
You asked which os is like that. Which has apps
Asdew
You asked which os is like that. Which has apps
No, I did not, and Linux is not an operating system, it's a kernel.
klimi
And I have refer to Linux as operating which you know what I have meant
Asdew
No, programs that he would develop himself, thats great exercise
Clarify what you meant by this, I might have misunderstood due to sarcasm.
klimi
You dont have to port other programs, you can make your own
Asdew
Which sarcasm
I meant the concept of sarcasm.
klimi
I'm sorry I have a hard time understanding you
Asdew
Well, at least we have the same problem.
Asdew
Do you speak Esperanto? Maybe it could help us.
klimi
Esperanto is what xD
klimi
I would have to learn this universal language
Asdew
Esperanto is facila.
klimi
But if it could help ... Then why not
Igor🇺🇦
You can do operating system, web server, malware or some game, some system utility,some framework
Are you suggesting writing OS to a beginner who just learned C? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 How many OSs did you write?
Mat
Are you suggesting writing OS to a beginner who just learned C? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 How many OSs did you write?
Why not? There are several tutorials out there about simple operative systems for VMs
Asdew
Are you suggesting writing OS to a beginner who just learned C? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 How many OSs did you write?
When I started developing my first x86 kernel, I had not programmed anything in C or x86 ASM. Making it taught me a lot.
klimi
Are you suggesting writing OS to a beginner who just learned C? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 How many OSs did you write?
Writing OS is easy start, tell me how many you have written, I bet you havent done a single one
Mat
No projects is too complicated for a newcomer with the right help, amount of time and interest Obviously you have to start with easy tasks inside that project or argument
Chernykh
#ot
What? No!
Igor🇺🇦
When I started developing my first x86 kernel, I had not programmed anything in C or x86 ASM. Making it taught me a lot.
How many working OSs did you do? Can you show working bootable OS that does anything?
Igor🇺🇦
No projects is too complicated for a newcomer with the right help, amount of time and interest Obviously you have to start with easy tasks inside that project or argument
There are plenty of projects too difficult and complicated for a anyone, no matter the experience, because the problem is just hard. Writing OS is one of them. That's why there are so few of actual usable ones. Can you show your OS? Can I get source code? I want to learn from an expert like you.
klimi
This isn't an os
Don't ruin it
Mat
There are tons of easy fixable bugs or stuff that you can learn watching the Linux bug tracker
klimi
>:(
Anonymous
Must be hard anyway to do the bootloader
Mat
Just because it isn't GNU/Linux doesn't mean it isn't an os
Mat
That's the point. Get a goal and pursue it!
Anonymous
Hello OS
klimi
Make it to print just a message
klimi
Add keyboard support
klimi
Shell support
klimi
Built some on top of that
klimi
Get some fs
klimi
Include VGA graphics
Dima
write your bootloader haha
Asdew
How many working OSs did you do? Can you show working bootable OS that does anything?
I've made 2 kernels (I'm still working on the newer one), one was a monolithic kernel and the newer one is a microkernel. I cannot really show anything, but I can say that I ported a terminal game to run on the first kernel in user space.
Mat
You're right
Mat
Gosh, is like saying Hello world applications aren't real applications because they don't do anything
klimi
Programming is pointless