Alexander
hi all
Alexander
does anybody know how to resolve this problem?
Artur
@ollirz Hi ✋, which OS you think is more suitable for C coding? Ubuntu, Debian or something else and why?
If you want to use Linux for programming, I think good idea is to use something Arch based. For example good idea is to try Manjaro
Muhammed
C ansi balaguru swami 6th edition book
Artur
‌ Arch itself is tol hard, but such OSs have not good support.
Arch has AUR and modern software, which is important for developer. Manjaro is very easy to install, not like Arch
Mihail
Arch is great and not actually hard to install
klimi
Arch is nice
Mihail
But Manjaro is a mess
klimi
But if you would ho for a manjaro
klimi
Take fedora or debian
数学の恋人
klimi
Manjaro is.... Terrible
Artur
Take fedora or debian
Old crap without drivers
数学の恋人
Why?
fedora is so nice for devs, it simply provides you comfy setup
klimi
Why?
If you know arch .... If something breaks... You can fix it... If it breaks you won't know how to fix it
klimi
Old crap without drivers
Thats total bulshit
klimi
No wonder Linus used it
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Arch has AUR and modern software, which is important for developer. Manjaro is very easy to install, not like Arch
It takes 1 moth for me to even install it. It's more suitable for enthusiasts
klimi
I tried manjaro
klimi
It was a mess
数学の恋人
I also used Manjaro it just didn't click things properly
klimi
Drivers sucks
Mihail
It is
klimi
That utility sucks too
klimi
Manjaro advice's you to rollback your clock
数学の恋人
😂 yes
klimi
Etc
Artur
I tried manjaro
If you want something light, use Manjaro Architect
klimi
Just... Thats not acceptable
Mihail
https://gitlab.manjaro.org/packages/core/manjaro-system/blob/master/manjaro-update-system.sh Just look at this shit
klimi
Or fedora
数学の恋人
But systemd sucks
klimi
I'm fine with that
klimi
Or gentoo.... Idk what guixsd uses
数学の恋人
openrc is really good
数学の恋人
Instead of gentoo I'd go with funtoo
klimi
Systemd is cool in some ways too
klimi
Typo
数学の恋人
Anyone
That's paid book go buy it don't ask here piracy issue or try to find on your own on libgen.is
数学の恋人
Dafuq?
klimi
Dafuq?
thats a size
数学の恋人
Yeah that's absurd
数学の恋人
There is almost nothing in that program but it's freaking 12K
Mihail
There is almost nothing in that program but it's freaking 12K
saying there isn't anything is simply wrong. there's way more behind the scences. first of all the compiler adds everything from _start up to your main. then there's the linker adding all sorts of important (and not so important) information about your elf executable, you could strip your executable and get it down to about 4K.
Ибраги́м
‌ Arch itself is tol hard, but such OSs have not good support.
U are learning C, Arch can't be worse than that
Mihail
and really that's sort of just an initial size. it's there, but it won't change and really unless you plan to fill up an HDD with Hello World's it doesn't really matter
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I get what you're saying but still its too much for a simple program
Mat
Dafuq?
Same stuff on Fedora, 24K 😂
数学の恋人
around same or little higher than original file size
数学の恋人
I guess so but I don't know
Mihail
wdym original file?
数学の恋人
4K
Mihail
like your source?
数学の恋人
yes
Mihail
that doesn't make sense lol
Mihail
you're flat out ignoring everything behind the scenes
数学の恋人
😂 maybe
数学の恋人
but asm won't be that big also
Mihail
512 for a hello world
Mihail
C is like 4-5K
Mihail
but does a lot more
Mihail
and if you really want you could get it lower
Mihail
it's just that there's no point
数学の恋人
Hmm got you
Anonymous
is there any body
klimi
Ye
Anonymous
any body know more about visual basic programming language?