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Anonymous

Well but asking opinion of experts here you can just answers quite fast

S.

This is a too general question

Walter

This is a too general question

Thats y I asked here ...So I dnt waste time in watching those tutorials

S.

😑 good luck

Anonymous

Thats y I asked here ...So I dnt waste time in watching those tutorials

Hmm, so wasting our time is better?

Walter

Hmm, so wasting our time is better?

No I dint mean it

Anonymous

But this is what you're doing. If you want to do something, learn to do it, and don't ask the same questions which is basicly just a google query over and over again.

Anonymous

I said what your options are and you only need to google for tutorials.

Walter

But this is what you're doing. If you want to do something, learn to do it, and don't ask the same questions which is basicly just a google query over and over again.

Yeah I got it ,will not repeat the same

S.

C99 has _Bool?

S.

6.3.1.2 Boolean type 1 When any scalar value is converted to _Bool, the result is 0 if the value compares equal to 0; otherwise, the result is 1.

Anonymous

Yeah, defined in stdbool.h

Dima

rekt

Anonymous

Bro c c++ best ide for Windows

Mat

Bro c c++ best ide for Windows

Search the chat history

Anonymous

Oh

Mat

We had something like 10+ discussion about it already 😂

Anonymous

Search the chat history

Ok I can find out this history

Dima

top kek top tier questions time

olli

Bro c c++ best ide for Windows

again, best depends on your needs. These are the results of a study to determine the most used C++ IDEs in 2018.

Anonymous

again, best depends on your needs. These are the results of a study to determine the most used C++ IDEs in 2018.

Thk u so much brother

Dima

> vim > ide lmao

Ludovic 'Archivist'

why are you doing this?

Because I am not entirely satisfied with the standard C++ library and want to propose an alternative one built on top of the freestanding C++ restrictions

Anonymous

again, best depends on your needs. These are the results of a study to determine the most used C++ IDEs in 2018.

This Visual Studio hurts me

Anonymous

Ludovic 'Archivist'

This Visual Studio hurts me

Well for having had to deal with it, it is not THAT bad of an IDE

Anonymous

Well for having had to deal with it, it is not THAT bad of an IDE

The most annoying thing was the missing folders

Ludovic 'Archivist'

The cancer is when it tries to open individual files like an idiot and it takes you 5 minutes to open an XML

Anonymous

Only filters for some weird reason

Anonymous

If I need to write code for Windows at work we use VS and it's just pain

Anonymous

It beginns with its ridiculous size (also if you only install the most important stuff) with 8 GB, over the weird folder/filter stuff and end with it's absolut braindead GUI design for linker settings

olli

If you want an IDE Visual Studio is, in my opinion, as good as it gets. The only disadvantage: you need a lot of space on C:\

olli

You can even Write and Debug Linux Kernel Modules from within Visual Studio - that's awesome!

Anonymous

Maybe my workflow is just not fitting with IDE's

Anonymous

You can even Write and Debug Linux Kernel Modules from within Visual Studio - that's awesome!

Yeah that's cool, indeed. But why should I use VS for that?

olli

and the C++ team does a good job adding and improving features such as "Template Intellisense" - pretty neat!

olli

Yeah that's cool, indeed. But why should I use VS for that?

Because I consider the VS Debugger good and its convienent

olli

How do/would you debug Linux Kernel modules?

Anonymous

I do debugging them with gdb

Anonymous

+ kvm/QEMU

olli

for most of the people using VS is probably more effective and efficient

Anonymous

Yeah, the drawback is, that this ends by kernel modules. You can't develope and debug the kernel itself with it.

olli

additionally afaik MS is still the only vendor conforming to C++17

Anonymous

additionally afaik MS is still the only vendor conforming to C++17

clang++ has nearly complete c++17 support

olli

yeah sure language wise, but does libc++?

Anonymous

There are some open issues indeed, but also pretty far

Ludovic 'Archivist'

clang++ has nearly complete c++17 support

Still no execution policy header

Ludovic 'Archivist'

additionally afaik MS is still the only vendor conforming to C++17

they don't

Ludovic 'Archivist'

they don't have execution policies either

Anonymous

Still no execution policy header

Yeah, that's true, I said nearly

olli

they don't

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2018/05/07/announcing-msvc-conforms-to-the-c-standard/

olli

"New Features: Parallel Algorithms C++17’s parallel algorithms library is complete. Note that this doesn’t mean every algorithm is parallelized in every case; the most important algorithms have been parallelized and execution policy signatures are provided even where algorithms are not parallelized. Our STL implementation’s central internal header, yvals.h, contains the following “Parallel Algorithms Notes”: C++ allows an implementation to implement parallel algorithms as calls to the serial algorithms. This implementation parallelizes several common algorithm calls, but not all."

Ludovic 'Archivist'

"New Features: Parallel Algorithms C++17’s parallel algorithms library is complete. Note that this doesn’t mean every algorithm is parallelized in every case; the most important algorithms have been parallelized and execution policy signatures are provided even where algorithms are not parallelized. Our STL implementation’s central internal header, yvals.h, contains the following “Parallel Algorithms Notes”: C++ allows an implementation to implement parallel algorithms as calls to the serial algorithms. This implementation parallelizes several common algorithm calls, but not all."

only sort is currently paralelized from my tests

Ludovic 'Archivist'

which is pretty much all that is required to say "hey we did something"

olli

The standard does not guarantee to parallel execution

Ludovic 'Archivist'

The standard does not guarantee to parallel execution

The reason GCC and Clang did not push on that yet is because they don't want to pretend

olli

That does not make the statement false by any means

Ludovic 'Archivist'

Also, MS coroutines are not standard conformant yet in regards to the TS

Ludovic 'Archivist'

because they are stackful

olli

and its not only "sort"

olli

The following algorithms are parallelized. adjacent_difference, adjacent_find, all_of, any_of, count, count_if, equal, exclusive_scan, find, find_end, find_first_of, find_if, for_each, for_each_n, inclusive_scan, mismatch, none_of, reduce, remove, remove_if, search, search_n, sort, stable_sort, transform, transform_exclusive_scan, transform_inclusive_scan, transform_reduce

olli

Also, MS coroutines are not standard conformant yet in regards to the TS

TS is not standard (yet), so no impact on "standard conformance"

olli

GCC doesn't even have an implemenation of coroutines

Ludovic 'Archivist'

The following algorithms are parallelized. adjacent_difference, adjacent_find, all_of, any_of, count, count_if, equal, exclusive_scan, find, find_end, find_first_of, find_if, for_each, for_each_n, inclusive_scan, mismatch, none_of, reduce, remove, remove_if, search, search_n, sort, stable_sort, transform, transform_exclusive_scan, transform_inclusive_scan, transform_reduce

Well, on all of my test they never used more than one thread except for the stable_sort

Ludovic 'Archivist'

GCC doesn't even have an implemenation of coroutines

It only have they in the bleeding edge one yeah

olli