Max
Это потому что он требовал отправить его отбивать Авдеевку но там уже слишком много желающих и мест нет и ему пришлось драться чтобы силой взять хотяб одно место в будущем штурмовом батальоне
NKMN
Hi everybody
NKMN
Is there any Russian I can ask some questions to? I'm italian and here we are overwhelmed by propaganda. Thanks in advance
NKMN
Thanks, very kind. I want to say in advance that you as all europeans are my blood brother, I have nothing to do with what my government say and do.
NKMN
I want to know what is the general opinion about alexei navalny as a politician. How relevant he was before he has been sentenced to jail for his fraud. Thanks
santjaga
Марк
I want to know what is the general opinion about alexei navalny as a politician. How relevant he was before he has been sentenced to jail for his fraud. Thanks
he was very popular among young people who are oriented towards the Western world but many of them forgot about him after covid and especially after his arrest
NKMN
Bro, I'm sorry, but Navalny is an empty place. He received money from the United States for shitting.
So he was politically irrelevant, are you saying that? Because as our media say it seems he was the biggest politcal opposition to Vladimir Putin
Gopneg
I want to know what is the general opinion about alexei navalny as a politician. How relevant he was before he has been sentenced to jail for his fraud. Thanks
too many noise. some schoolboys and some crazy people trust him, but nothing special. peak was in 2011-2013, but then all this crazy-bitches can't do nothing even speak together. Crimea was their fall - they can't agree inside their group, beginning of the end
NKMN
Very interesting, thank you all
Gopneg
So he was politically irrelevant, are you saying that? Because as our media say it seems he was the biggest politcal opposition to Vladimir Putin
bullshit, it was nothing, they even don't have officially registered party, too small group to catch enough votes
Gopneg
So he was politically irrelevant, are you saying that? Because as our media say it seems he was the biggest politcal opposition to Vladimir Putin
yes, only media says, because of money. pure marketing. they were trying to sell revolution. but fail
NKMN
bullshit, it was nothing, they even don't have officially registered party, too small group to catch enough votes
Our media are ridiculous, they once said that your army is fighting with shovels🤣
Gopneg
Our media are ridiculous, they once said that your army is fighting with shovels🤣
yes, out army throw shovels very fast, they fly over 10 mach, so even piece of wood and steel very dangerous
Sherzod
Навальный вор кстате, не забываем
NKMN
Another thing, what about oleg orlov. Our media say that he has been sentenced to jail for having critisized the government, is this true?
NKMN
https://www.rainews.it/video/2024/02/russia-oleg-orlov-condanna-nobel-dissidente-diritti-umani-memorial-mistretta-9c60ec54-663a-4ce9-93c8-ef82c50be64b.html
NKMN
This is the public television
Марат
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6533913
Марат
видимо этот чел
Sherzod
О, Мемориал
Gopneg
Another thing, what about oleg orlov. Our media say that he has been sentenced to jail for having critisized the government, is this true?
"discrediting of the army" means saying that our army is nazy army and so on prohibited by law obviously
Gopneg
"discrediting of the army" means saying that our army is nazy army and so on prohibited by law obviously
so if this means "criticize government" if your eyes - yes, this could be true
NKMN
I don't think this should be illegal though
NKMN
I am convinced that freedom of speech is one of most important right to preserve
Tim
I am convinced that freedom of speech is one of most important right to preserve
Is it right to say that Jesus does blow-job to Buddha? You can think so, but it's not correct to believers. So it's illegal to say that
NKMN
It's not right but it shouldn't be illegal, because if you start you never know how it could end.
NKMN
The law is different from morality, the first one has to follow the political pragmatism, the second one soul
NKMN
This is my position
Tim
Can't agree with that. We wouldn't need laws if everyone had same moral compass
mr
It's not right but it shouldn't be illegal, because if you start you never know how it could end.
Pure freedom of speech doesn't exist. All the difference is who will punish you for wrong words. Gov't, corporations, or your fellow neighbours
Gopneg
I am convinced that freedom of speech is one of most important right to preserve
btw, we have almost infinity freedom of speech for deputies, so if this dude have something to say that directly prohibited by law, he could ask his deputy to say this instead but returning to this one https://t.me/politicsf/246820 they can't even dispute with each other inside in their group, so this is not opposition, this is just bunch of marginals
Gopneg
you might even read in your media something about "political abuse of psychiatry", some of this crazies crazy enough, so for their crimes (usually something about set fire to government buildings) they can't be punished with jail, because of they really sick, this is target audience of "selling revolution", nothing unexpected
NKMN
do not mess freedom of speech and freedom of lie
If you say something with bad intentions this is another thing
Gopneg
⚡️🇷🇺 Минобороны РФ сообщило об учебно-боевом пуске ракеты ПГРК "Ярс". Ракета была запущена с космодрома в Плесецке. Учебные боевые блоки прибыли в заданный район на полигоне Кура на Камчатке Подписаться на канал
NKMN
where r u from?
I am Italian 🇮🇹
Sherzod
Фашисты снова зигуют в Риме В Риме состоялась акция памяти о фашисте Микисе Мантакасе, убитом леворадикалами в «свинцовые семидесятые» (период итальянской политической жизни с конца 1960-х по начало 1980-х годов, характеризовавшийся разгулом уличного насилия, ультраправого и ультралевого экстремизма. Иногда период трактуется как «гражданская война низкой интенсивности»). Верховный суд Италии отказался криминализировать фашистский салют и теперь фашисты все чаще проводят уличные акции. Фашистские акции памяти поддерживают лидеры правящей фашистской партии "Братья Италии". @politeconomics
Noname
I am Italian 🇮🇹
как живется в этих ваших италиях?
Sherzod
яйца есть все полки полные свобода слова демократия
Sherzod
кружевные трусики голубые педики
Gopneg
If you say something with bad intentions this is another thing
he directly says that russia is a nazy state and so on based on this country with 190 nations is nazy, funny. I suppose he is sick
Noname
русские нацики, ор выше гор)) над тогда ритку звать, они еще больше трешака накидает
Sherzod
Fratelli d'Italia is not fascist at all
А чего они зигуют тогда? 😁
Noname
Gopneg
actually, this is all pseudo-opposition base all their logic on one fake fact - they suppose that Putin is not legitimate chosen leader. But for Putin stand whole country. this is fact
Gopneg
А чего они зигуют тогда? 😁
от сердца к солнцу, епта, коловрат %))
Noname
What do you mean?
you need learn russian language )
Gopneg
узбекский учить надо, ды
Sherzod
китайский
Sergey
Армия РФ, предположительно, захватила Орловку на авдеевском направлении, заявляет военный аналитик Bild Юлиан Рёпке со ссылкой на "украинскую сторону" (Украина этого не подтверждала, вчера Сырский заявлял, что за Орловку идут бои). Репке публикует видео, утверждая, что на нем видно, что село находится под контролем России. Анализируя ситуацию после захвата Авдеевки Репке заявляет, что в настоящее время «Запад терпит поражение в Украине». По его оценке, РФ демонстрирует "настоящую битву общевойсковых способов", когда авиация, танки, дроны и артиллерия эффективно взаимодействуют. Он заявляет, что у "украинцев нет шансов" из-за российских авиабомб по 500 кг. Они уничтожают позиции ВСУ вместе с солдатами. Сейчас концентрация российской авиации и авиаударов "беспрецедентная". "Если мы быстро не изменим (кардинально улучшим) качество и количество вооружений, страна будет истекать кровью в течение многих лет и терять территории, пока Россия не сочтет свои геостратегические цели выполненными", - пишет Репке. Он считает, что Украина должна подумать, "хочет ли она продолжать защищать (и терять) прифронтовые позиции" при значительном превосходстве РФ в солдатах и технике. По его мнению, альтернативой могла бы стать "реальная" мобилизация и, "по крайней мере, трехкратное увеличение числа активных солдат на фронте". Но это имеет смысл, только если новобранцев удастся вооружить. Разговоры о том, что Россия находится на грани материально-технического коллапса, он предлагает отвергать как "пропаганду" или "выдачу желаемого за действительное". Сайт "Страна" | YouTube | Прислать новость/фото/видео | Реклама на канале | Помощь "Стране"
Sergey
Sergey
Sergey
Sergey
mr
If you say something with bad intentions this is another thing
Who should decide if intentions were bad? Navalniy, for example, claimed that he was for everything good against everything bad. And deliberately organised protests to be dispersed by riot police, so western governments would have cause for sanctions to make common people lives worse to organise more protests, etc.
Noname
why?
don't know, he can't read 🤷‍♂️
santjaga
узбекский учить надо, ды
узбеки и так заебали!
Gopneg
узбеки и так заебали!
итало-узбек тебя утешит
Sherzod
узбеки и так заебали!
бедные тувинцы :(
santjaga
??
use google translate, bro!
Sherzod
??
Почему они кидают фашистские приветствия?
Noname
use google translate, bro!
да вроде телега умеет переводить, или это ток у русских такая функция есть?
Noname
Sherzod
santjaga
??
but https://translate.yandex.com/it/?source_lang=ru&ncrnd=74&target_lang=en beter