Yes, it will, when your DE takes up very little of the RAM. And you can add swap on Linux.

that won't make it faster. besides windows has page files too

I'm thinking in sell the remains of my old laptop to buy a 8 GB SD card, but my worse fear is that the system doesn't support it

Most SD cards are supported ootb, or with very cheap card readers.

yeah? i run office 2016 on my tablet with 1GB RAM just fine

Right. It's a tablet. It has a customised version. These were full normal versions. If XP was unusable, imagine upgrading to 7 or 8....

depends on multiple factors. a tablet with slow eMMC won't get fast when you put linux on it

Depends.

Use slim Linux distro and it would work well.

Most SD cards are supported ootb, or with very cheap card readers.

Yes, but if the board can't read more than X size of memory, it will be useless

that won't make it faster. besides windows has page files too

Compare an i3 to a full version of Windows 7.

In particular, don't use systemd for a weak device.

Right. It's a tablet. It has a customised version. These were full normal versions. If XP was unusable, imagine upgrading to 7 or 8....

eh, no, it's full win10 with office.

Yes, but if the board can't read more than X size of memory, it will be useless

Ah, damn. Didn`t think of that. Google?

eh, no, it's full win10 with office.

That's weird....

Use slim Linux distro and it would work well.

if the hardware is the bottleneck for what you're doing to it, then it won't get faster with a different OS. easy as that

That's weird....

low end devices ship with full win10 these days

if the hardware is the bottleneck for what you're doing to it, then it won't get faster with a different OS. easy as that

It would get faster if the OS is faster.

if the hardware is the bottleneck for what you're doing to it, then it won't get faster with a different OS. easy as that

With Linux, and a lightweight distro, very much so.

Somehow, old devices worked pretty fast when OSes were designed for that.

It would get faster if the OS is faster.

an OS is not "faster", at most it is lighter

low end devices ship with full win10 these days

1GB RAM Atom N450? With Win10... working?

an OS is not "faster", at most it is lighter

It is same in the context of usability.

With Linux, and a lightweight distro, very much so.

no... imagine running Photoshop on Windows vs Linux, it won't make a difference if your CPU just can't run photoshop. or if the device just hasn't enough storage. or if ...

Example: Asus UL20FT. Windows 7 worked OK, Windows 10 works ultra crappy, Fedora worked OK, Void Linux works lovely.

i'm not saying either OS is superior btw, I just hate it when people say Linux is superior because it's "faster" or "just better". pointless bashing without having experience.

no... imagine running Photoshop on Windows vs Linux, it won't make a difference if your CPU just can't run photoshop. or if the device just hasn't enough storage. or if ...

Photoshop doesn't run on Linux....

i'm not saying either OS is superior btw, I just hate it when people say Linux is superior because it's "faster" or "just better". pointless bashing without having experience.

Didn't say that.

Photoshop doesn't run on Linux....

take more than half a second to read my message

no... imagine running Photoshop on Windows vs Linux, it won't make a difference if your CPU just can't run photoshop. or if the device just hasn't enough storage. or if ...

No, consider an app uses 500 mb RAM on a 1 gig RAM device. And the OS uses some more RAM too...

But certain distros of Linux in general work faster than generic Windows build, because of low end devices optimisation.

take more than half a second to read my message

Yes, I did, and I don't think we're comparing the same stuff.

i'm not saying either OS is superior btw, I just hate it when people say Linux is superior because it's "faster" or "just better". pointless bashing without having experience.

No, ofc not, some DEs and WMs are lighter.

Yes, I did, and I don't think we're comparing the same stuff.

*imagine* photoshop, i never said it did run

Though, there are also Windows builds for very low end PCs.

*imagine* photoshop, i never said it did run

I actually tried to use it and I can confirm that it didn't work.

Yes, I did, and I don't think we're comparing the same stuff.

it's irrelevant for the comparison anyway, s/photoshop/any other heavy app/

and while it's true that some distros are lighter, that's completely beside my point; all I'm saying is that if you are running an app that your device can't really handle, it 99.999% of the time won't work under any other OS either

so imo it's pointless to go about and bash windows or linux if your device is the culprit. don't expect your Atom to perform like an i7.

I used in my child laptop, an Acer Asus eeePC Surf 2G

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so imo it's pointless to go about and bash windows or linux if your device is the culprit. don't expect your Atom to perform like an i7.

It should perfom like an i7 in basic tasks though. That's the purpose, if text editor window lags on dragging it, then something is very wrong. And most likely, with the software.

That's why people still use Windows XP, light blends of Linux, etc.

It should perfom like an i7 in basic tasks though. That's the purpose, if text editor window lags on dragging it, then something is very wrong. And most likely, with the software.

It shouldn't, you bought an Atom and you should use it like an Atom, your mainstream car doesn't accelerate to 120 km/h in 1 second to then just drop to regular mode

It shouldn't, you bought an Atom and you should use it like an Atom, your mainstream car doesn't accelerate to 120 km/h in 1 second to then just drop to regular mode

I think, it not even should, it has to.

But in basic tasks.

If the UI lags, then you chose software wrong for your hardware.

I don't want UI on my devices to lag, stall, glitch, etc., that is why I use quite light builds of Linux for all of my hardware.

On 3 out of 4 computers I use daily, Windows 7 doesn't work acceptable for my preferences.

But the windows 10 UI doesn't lag on Atom devices that ship with it

That is because those Atoms are actually quite capable.

And Windows 10 is designed to support them quite well.

Right

That Asus EeePC 701 that we discussed a little earlier has a 600MHz singlecore Celeron-M from something like 2003.

That Asus EeePC 701 that we discussed a little earlier has a 600MHz singlecore Celeron-M from something like 2003.

That won't run windows 10 no, but it won't run modern Linux on acceptable speeds and without lag

And nowadays Atoms are quadcore 1.33GHz chips.

That won't run windows 10 no, but it won't run modern Linux on acceptable speeds and without lag

It does run modern Linux distro on acceptable speed and without a single lag though.

It does run modern Linux distro on acceptable speed and without a single lag though.

I highly doubt it

Thanks to a variety of WM/DEs you can pick.

I've an Athlon X2 around here and it can barely keep up with XFCE and Firefox

I've an Athlon X2 around here and it can barely keep up with XFCE and Firefox

There are lighter things than Firefox and XFCE.

Openbox and NetSurf.

For example.

There are lighter things than Firefox and XFCE.

They won't give you a modern and enjoyable experience though

i3wm is a light WM I use everywhere.

They won't give you a modern and enjoyable experience though

Modern experiences are not exactly enjoyable, nor are window managers not.

They won't give you a modern and enjoyable experience though

Yet, that would be an up to date OS, with all necessary patches.

Try LXDE/LXQt one day, they are even lighter than XFCE.

I run pantheon

On fedora

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It's nice

Yet, that would be an up to date OS, with all necessary patches.

Except the software it uses won't be up to date by today's standards. Not so much the wm but the browser etc

Except the software it uses won't be up to date by today's standards. Not so much the wm but the browser etc

We were talking abot the OS itself, not about browsers. :)

We were talking abot the OS itself, not about browsers. :)

We were talking about performance in relation to running apps

At least I was

I live in a place where you don't have much of a choice what hardware to use. Hence why I still use EeePC 701, Dell Latitude 100L, etc.

jwf: Anyone know anything about using Synergy with Wayland? Is that possible?

jwf: I have someone asking me on another IRC network and not sure what to say

jwf has never used Wayland

jwf: s/Wayland/Synergy

jwf: I have someone asking me on another IRC network and not sure what to say

Doubt it. Don't think it can control the pointer in its current state

Doubt it. Don't think it can control the pointer in its current state

Synergy or Wayland? :)

How is that related

On fedora

Kewl!!

Fedora Telegram <=> IRC Bridge

Fedora Telegram <=> IRC Bridge

IRC

We were talking about performance in relation to running apps

My sons laptop uses LXQt with qupzilla, and work pretty nice

For single tab browsing, some local gaming

I'm not trying to run a steam game or anything

I'm pretty sure that I could even code on that machine

Qupzilla is relatively light. QtWebEngine doesn't contain all the bloatware that Chromium's original engine contains iirc

Want to sit in this conference using XMPP transport here.

Want to sit in this conference using XMPP transport here.

There is no XMPP here

You need to learn how to optimize the software for your HW

There is no XMPP here

:/

:/

Connect either via telegram or IRC

Anyway the dishes aren't going to clean themselves, bbl

Connect either via telegram or IRC

Even for me, IRC is not convenient.

Nothing I can do about that

I hate such moments. :/ Now I'll go get angry at the whole world.

❤️ IRC

Just really confused .. we have a fedora india mailing list.. but not one for every country?