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i use KDE

You wouldn't call a girl ugly, would you? Instead you could tell her she might have a bit too much make up on

No, I would definitely call a girl ugly

i use KDE

i woudn't know what to do then, sorry.

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if I found her to be ugly

I don't see how that's relevant to a theme

No, I would definitely call a girl ugly

haha, then I'm sorry but you lack compassion and empathy then

i woudn't know what to do then, sorry.

never mind

Everyone is different, we all have different tastes

It's okay to find something ugly

in the same way you can find something beautiful

it's just... an opinion

If you are okay with people calling you an ?⭕️

Sure

It's just a description of your thoughts

But I was meaning how not to be an ?⭕️

it isn't something factual

I'd rather people be honest with me. But I'd also preffer that someone state why they hold this opinion.

^

I've been lied to a lot in my life

so I've taken a stance of not sugar coating things

So Zwem why do you think the Numix icons are ugly?

You don't have to agree with me

I'm just giving my perspective on a subject

it's okay to disagree

So Zwem why do you think the Numix icons are ugly?

I feel it's a very generic look tbf

It doesn't incite excitement for me

What excites you?

From other themes?

What excites you?

You do :)

There we go. Now you've explained youself, now it doesn't seem hostile to some.

haha

You took it as hostile, that's a user problem :)

I like shadows and transparency

Well, you explain the UI without putting thoughts in the UX

so having every icon as a circle is meh

I like uneven edges

things like that

paper icon theme is what I'm using currently

So you are the classic hacker

You took it as hostile, that's a user problem :)

Saying that you think something is ugly without explination is an insult to some. But if you explain why, it's not. It's just how a lot of people take things.

I'm not a hacker

Saying that you think something is ugly without explination is an insult to some. But if you explain why, it's not. It's just how a lot of people take things.

It's a summary of my thoughts without having to go into detail

It's a quick and to the point opinion

Are there some foods you like and don't like?

I hope you never have to hire designers with that attitude of yours

I for one can't stand any seafood

but I don't have to explain it in a 14 page essay

I just don't like seafood, it's disgusting

You impact no one's life by hating seafood

I could go on about the smell and texture

You do though, by calling girls ugly

but it's easier to just say "I don't like seafood"

So that's a difference

You do though, by calling girls ugly

Well I mean, if they are ugly..

I'm not going to lie and say they are pretty

It's a quick and to the point opinion

I get ya, man. I'm just saying that a lot of people will take stuff like that as an insult. For example, "You are ugly" VS "That makeup makes you look ugly" one seems less hostile than the other.

lying is the worst thing you could do

but it's not about the makeup

"I think you are ugly"? :P

its just an example

What if I say 'Those genetics make you look ugly'

what difference does it have?

lol

it kind of does actually.

people then know why

so what's wrong with the truth?

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Nature is nature

can't change that

nothing. its just that the truth should have a bit of explination.

There is no truth in being ugly or beautiful

I don't hate you because you're ugly

but you're not winning any beauty pagents

as an example

there is nothing wrong with being ugly

it's just a thing

in our society the word "ugly" is frequently used an an insult. That's just the way it is.

What Chris said

well in our society 90% of PC users are on Windows

but we're on Linux as 1%

does that make us wrong?

Being ugly and not attractive is quite a difference

I mean, look at the macro

It's more than 1%

It was an example, I don't know the numbers off hand

but I know we're in the heavy minority

Yeah I get your point

does that make us wrong?

This is different. This is how the average person interprets a word.

wow looks like i came in to an interesting discussion, lol

I think it's all symantics really

At this moment I'm divided I'm 50% ok with zewn and 50% ok with elio. A part from that I'm LMAO

plus you have to also consider that in text form you don't have 'tone'

Like, I get what both of you are saying. Honesty is important, you don't want to sugarcoat. But also just saying "You're ugly" can seem like an insult. A small explination actually can be helpful, and lessen the blow.

when speaking in person your tone can change the meaning of your words

so it's hard to get an exact read on the delivery

How many times have you called your friend an asshole in a playful manner versus calling the guy that just cut you off in traffic an asshole

your tone changes it's meaning

if that makes sense

technically speaking, the word ugly is just the opposite of beautiful. it really isn't an insult on its own. it depends on if the person takes offense to it. there are some folks that are pleased to be called ugly, lol. However, I agree that clarity in communication, especially written, is paramount. Explain, explain, explain. Ask questions about what the other person's intent is if it is unclear or vague.