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天荣
02.06.2017
16:33:51
I love bypassing DPIs

Fuck off sysadmin

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:34:51
Well, I work in Mobile Telecommunication industry, and with 4g, 4g+ and the upcoming 5G, if you don't DPI the network, you can't give proper services to other

Vitaly
02.06.2017
16:35:10
After 23 hours long Go/No-Go meeting for F26 Beta 1.4 compose [1] we have decided to slip the whole F26 release for one week [2]. The main concern for not releasing this compose [1] as GOLD is unclear resolution of bug #1397087, which is still causing some issues during testing.

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天荣
02.06.2017
16:35:14
Who cares

DPI all you want.

I'll bypass it.

Always have and always will

Hell I even have an emergency Telegram bot that launches an installation of Streisand VPN on my DigitalOcean account

If I need a quick VPN in minutes

norj
02.06.2017
16:37:29
or is it two different thing

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:38:02
Well, I work in Mobile Telecommunication industry, and with 4g, 4g+ and the upcoming 5G, if you don't DPI the network, you can't give proper services to other
If you DPI mobile Communications Networks you can fuck right off imho - but its hard to find a provider that doesnt do so and offers contracts with it.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:38:28
or is it two different thing
IN mobile ISP, is har, really hard, but depending on the country, it's usually restricted by law

Google
天荣
02.06.2017
16:38:33
Not even at home haha

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:38:51
Since you work in telco, how scary is the monitoring by isp?
Their Failure at Standards and coding are much worse. Think of all the Crap around SS7 sometime back.

天荣
02.06.2017
16:39:16
Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:39:20
I'll never connect without VPN again
I wish i had a trusted, unmonitored output - or atleast one not attached to my name.

天荣
02.06.2017
16:39:51
For example : biggest ISP in Spain generates a document automatically every time a client connects to Tor, fetching all the previous web pages he has visited.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:40:08
or is it two different thing
For example in Venezuela, to look inside one subscriber data, it's required a court order is required

norj
02.06.2017
16:40:27
but the data is there on a server?

purge policy?

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:40:49
but the data is there on a server?
Of course, most countries do Permanent Saving of everything

They say they delete it after x but i am trusting them exactly 0 on it

天荣
02.06.2017
16:41:05
They also record every single DNS lookup, even to third party servers (because they are unencrypted) and maintain a record of up to 1 year

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:41:05
You are in grammar ninja mode today, no?
LOL, I translated "Mon dieu" as "Bon Jour" and "regardez" as "sin importar". French is not my thing. I'm a Franquista de la Lengua and a Spanish Inquisitor, far from being a Grammar Nazi ?

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:41:24
but the data is there on a server?
No. When a court order is given, and the regulator ask for it, we setup a mirror port. Past data can't be seen

norj
02.06.2017
16:41:52
Shit. better setup vpn now

天荣
02.06.2017
16:42:21
Eduard
02.06.2017
16:42:49
but the data is there on a server?
Also it's fun to look in the live network, but you can be catched there and get suited for that

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:42:57
And them being directly attached at several network exchanges

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天荣
02.06.2017
16:43:21
Well... Legally it can't be seen.

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:43:27
And in germany they save _ALL_ data for two years.

天荣
02.06.2017
16:43:31
The reality is different.

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:43:37
Calls, Connections, where to and from.

norj
02.06.2017
16:43:45
No. When a court order is given, and the regulator ask for it, we setup a mirror port. Past data can't be seen
Again, depending on country's law. Diff country may have permastore it right? Damn grabbed by the ball

天荣
02.06.2017
16:43:47
Obviously the ISP will claim they saved no data, just in case.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:43:57
I said before: It depens on the country

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:44:07
You basically need to run a tor node to have some kind of privacy because then they cant allocate it to you.

天荣
02.06.2017
16:44:29
Tor project is now doing a full cleanup of evil nodes and stuff

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:44:40
天荣
02.06.2017
16:44:58
Eduard
02.06.2017
16:44:59
People really think that is too easy to save 6 or 7 millions subcriber data, also think that is "too easy", or cheap, ore they are forced

norj
02.06.2017
16:45:23
ah yes business side

天荣
02.06.2017
16:45:25
And Spanish telcos do it routinely.

Google
Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:45:50
Again, Germany. they just ordered two year store and every telco had the infrastructure up in no time.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:45:54
It's not the same to clasify traffic that record all data

天荣
02.06.2017
16:45:55
Think that a fraction of your Internet subscription service price goes to pay the storage of your own data ;)

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:46:08
But I really don't want to explain that here

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:46:39
What's the country that really worth in terms of Freedom of Speech and Free Internet access that respects people privacy?

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:46:40
Sure, "only metadata aside the 30% or so that they want stored from the _total capacity_ of the Exchange - which is 100% of the traffic at de-cix.

norj
02.06.2017
16:47:20
netherland right?

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:48:07
netherland right?
https://torrentfreak.com/danish-isps-stand-up-against-mafia-like-copyright-trolls-170530/

Its a start

fuck all content production mafia networks. artists deserve better than them.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:49:34
Think that a fraction of your Internet subscription service price goes to pay the storage of your own data ;)
Say that in a country with dollar regulations, where you are forbided to translate your profits to dollars and where no vendor wants to sell you anything in the local currency: Hell yeah, too easy

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:49:50
None
There must be at least a decent one... something. Iceland?

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:50:01
Pirate island?

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:50:45
Findland?
:s/Findland/Finland/

Google
天荣
02.06.2017
16:50:59
How is that even related?

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:51:19
:s/Findland/Finland/
LOL, I saw it like 3 messages after

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:52:22
Torga
The first time I hear of it.

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:52:56
How is that even related?
Well, too easy: To storage data means storage center, Storage Center means a vendor, 3rd World Country means tech importations

Can you see the flow???

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:53:11
The first time I hear of it.
$aCertainBay dot to = Torga

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:53:14
Or you still don't get it??

Tobias?
02.06.2017
16:53:33
Can you see the flow???
Why would that stop a government?

Its not like they are happy to break their own rules to get what they want

Aslong as their ass isnt on the stove they literally won't care

天荣
02.06.2017
16:54:06
Plus ISPs have money.

Like... Lots.

(■_■¬)
02.06.2017
16:54:23
Eduard
02.06.2017
16:54:29
That's something that europeans are not going to understand

Sorry

天荣
02.06.2017
16:54:37
hmmm

k

Eduard
02.06.2017
16:54:42
But the history don't goes that way

天荣
02.06.2017
16:54:49
If you say so.

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