KDE is more oldschool windows, you can set up practically everything, but it doesn't feel unfinished, you can set up everything using a control panel and so on

yep and is great

^^ makes two of us

it makes us three, KDE is awesome, even if I don't use it nowadays

GNOME is grate

Have you tried apricity??

pre-plasma it ate my older boxes like desert but good DE

however my daily is i3wm

Plasma 4 was a mistake I admit that hahaha I hate it, but in those days GNOME 2 specially Ubuntu implamatationn was great

Have you tried apricity??

They just closed

i3wm is one of these that I call "unfinished". I mean, it's a great window manager, but I am too fscking lazy to set up every time, set up a panel, get something to display a wallpaper, set up xscreensaver, power management, make sure nm-applet is present and so on

El rippo

Arguably the best desktop distro

https://apricityos.com/

I wish someone would start something like lxde was for openbox, but for i3wm

They just closed

?....

?....

Yep.

They just closed

Don't remind me...

Yep.

Q: will I get Arch updates/ upgrades If I continue to use it???

Sure

Sure

So I can use it sans problems....

Nice....

Which "version"?

The current latest leap version

I tried gnome ., unity, Cinnamon, mate ..but KDE is the best for me

hi guys

hi

do you know one CentOS group?

In telegram?

@dmastiff not on Telegram but Facebook and diaspora do

same with irc

ok, diaspora i dont use yet

tks for all

Fedora is better CentOS? popular question

Fedora is better CentOS? popular question

Depends on your usage.

Want a rock-stable server system lasting you 10 Years of support? Centos Want the newest Features or a Desktop System? Fedora

Centos doesnt hold up as Desktop well tough

Centos is not for desktoo usage?

i try use for this

i try use for this

Its not made for it

And fares poorly, especially with its outdated components

Fedora is testbed and can break and is much more agile ( 6 months releases, 13 months total support) Centos is the entreprise/rock solid 10 year total support ( + 1-3 months of last minute upgrade tiem normally reserved fro RHEL customers)

But Centos does ship with outdated af Gnome, has very very old Kernel Feature Support ect.

well, if you're going to support a big office full of office workers that are going to use libre office 8 hours/day and want no trouble, then I would argue that centos is the way to go

Things that will not interest you as Server User but very much as Desktop Users

well, if you're going to support a big office full of office workers that are going to use libre office 8 hours/day and want no trouble, then I would argue that centos is the way to go

Thats another valid Reason

But not as single Desktop User

yup

maybe as a single looking to learn the details fo the differences

but fedora isnt stable?

but fedora isnt stable?

It is

It just does more Things much quicker

i'm in doubt between Fedora or CentOS

but fedora isnt stable?

it is stable and tested, but every half year more or less you get a new release

i'm in doubt between Fedora or CentOS

What do you want to use it for

i want to learn more about unix and DBs

do you use Windows or MacOS currently?

but also use as desktop

but also use as desktop

Fedora

do you use Windows or MacOS currently?

none, my notebook is empty

maybe installing it in a virtual machine for a start would be a good idea, then you may just install whichever you want, check it out and switch if you don't like something

none, my notebook is empty

okay then

I would recommend Fedora as well

CentOS - you won't have to do any risky upgrades for the next 5 years, but everything will be pretty old

Fedora - do the (really easy) upgrade once a year + small upgrades every a few days and you're set

And if you want to learn Databases a recent version is always good

Like mariadb, postgres and redis

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so, I guess Fedora will be convenient enough, while also quite fresh

my concern is with the updates... will not i have to format my system with each new version?

my concern is with the updates... will not i have to format my system with each new version?

definitely not

like in ubuntu for example

You can, if you didnt add many thirdparty repos, update your system seamlessly

Altough some of use have opted for the "clean slate" approach and have written scripts to just reinstall all the apps for them each new version instead, making it easy and fast to setup a clean system fully new.

thanks for ideas

i try fedora

The Jeep of the Linux world

I tried to use it but always fail in some part especially grub and uefi configuration

I tried to use it but always fail in some part especially grub and uefi configuration

Don't use GRUB and UEFI together. Pick one or the other.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-boot

I know systemd gets a lot of hate, but I find that it's simplified my Linux "experience" quite a bit.

I know systemd gets a lot of hate, but I find that it's simplified my Linux "experience" quite a bit.

Wow thanks a lot, I will definitely give it a try

I've used UEFI and GRUB together before, but it's a pain to maintain

After a while you remember the commands, but it's a waste of time

But is it support muli-boot, i. e. Fedora, Ubuntu, and Windows

I am fine with systemd

I'm not sure; I usually use separate devices for each platform. When I multi-boot, I tend to stick to GRUB.

You just have to be sure you maintain it

If you take the time and go through all the documentation, you can get some awesome customizability with significant performance and usability benefits, but it takes a lot of time.

If you take the time and go through all the documentation, you can get some awesome customizability with significant performance and usability benefits, but it takes a lot of time.

I will thanks

Don't use GRUB and UEFI together. Pick one or the other.

FUD, I'm using Fedora since 22 on my laptop in UEFI mode with GRUB, triple booting alongside W8 and Debian.

FUD, I'm using Fedora since 22 on my laptop in UEFI mode with GRUB, triple booting alongside W8 and Debian.

I was talking about Arch :P

It works fine with a sane distro

I've used UEFI and GRUB together before, but it's a pain to maintain

No is not.

No is not.

This was specifically for Arch

Not Fedora

This was specifically for Arch

I tested it with Arch too... seriously if it didn't work for you it doesn't mean to be the rule.

I tested it with Arch too... seriously if it didn't work for you it doesn't mean to be the rule.

It works. I'm just saying you have to be careful. If you want point-and-click--well, you probably shouldn't be using Arch, but systemd-boot works better.

If you bothered to read the whole thing, you'd see that I said it works. ;)

However, if you're patching the kernel yourself or doing anything fancy like that, it gets to be a real pain.