Then how can you tell me it's possible to root an S8?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-s8-t3581789 - this thread.

> trusting any app other than those which are absolutely necessary to handle your private keys

Also, @xvitaly, Kingroot can't root my device, sadly.

what can go wrong

PC better than phone

Ooooookay?

> trusting any app other than those which are absolutely necessary to handle your private keys

Kek

Don't live your life then

More nihilism, seriously folks, storing critical data like private GPG/SSH keys in the cloud or in compromised devices with no reputable OS is no a good idea, it is just uploading file to other computer owned by anyone else. If the building the entire OS from scratch is not reproducible then it is not trusty.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-s8-t3581789 - this thread.

I didn't see the kingoroot exploit.

You claimed there was one.

Phones get obsoletes because manufacters want to, and keeping your premise that "keeping up-to-date is your responsability", then don't use smartphones

I'll step aside from this conversation.

You claimed there was one.

"applications like King's Root" though.

Phones get obsoletes because manufacters want to, and keeping your premise that "keeping up-to-date is your responsability", then don't use smartphones

I don't trust them :^)

I have legacy laptops and pc's up-to-date because I can, with smartphones you can't

Not KingsRoot exclusive.

I'll step aside from this conversation.

Oh boy.

You can, only while your manufacturer want to

I don't really want to put keys on a device that can be lost/badly damaged/stolen fairly easy comparing with even a laptop.

More nihilism, seriously folks, storing critical data like private GPG/SSH keys in the cloud or in compromised devices with no reputable OS is no a good idea, it is just uploading file to other computer owned by anyone else. If the building the entire OS from scratch is not reproducible then it is not trusty.

I'm agreed with the GPG/SSH key stored on clouds or phones, but it's not like I will stop using Android devices because they are spying on me

I don't really want to put keys on a device that can be lost/badly damaged/stolen fairly easy comparing with even a laptop.

☝?

And the truth has been told

bahaha

When I would recieve a payback from university, first thing I would get is a smartcard or two and a smartcard reader with encryption keys.

none of you have read anything beyond the front page of this software

and youre making up all these strawmen

and youre making up all these strawmen

If keys don't leave the phone, at least I would loose them if I won't back them up somewhere.

and youre making up all these strawmen

change our mind then

If keys don't leave the phone, at least I would loose them if I won't back them up somewhere.

no one said dont make backups

Also I agreed you need to keep updated your OS's, but with phones and tablets this isn't possible, and it isn't problem if the users, it's just Scheduled Obsolescence

no one said dont make backups

But then key already left the phone.

But then key already left the phone.

and you keep it encrypted and dont store it unencrypted in memory

which, if you read the articles, you would realise

change our mind then

you're asking me to tell you what you could have read for yourself?

i don't live to serve you

I'm agreed with the GPG/SSH key stored on clouds or phones, but it's not like I will stop using Android devices because they are spying on me

Same here. I though we were talking about GPG/SSH keys. Obviously I use google contacts syncing, gmail for publics mailing list, and now Telegram has support for calls I'm using the phone more often to call people. Hopefully the people I'm talking use it too. I use youtube with mpv + youtube-dl...

and you keep it encrypted and dont store it unencrypted in memory

Also, I am going to get rid of smartphone pretty soon.

you're asking me to tell you what you could have read for yourself?

then don't be mad if something looks bad on the first sight then people don't want to look further ?

xt7-player-mpv :D

So, even with noticable advantages, it won't really be usable for me.

then don't be mad if something looks bad on the first sight then people don't want to look further ?

no im annoyed at people rejecting something out of hand with "technical" arguments without actually reading about the thing they're shittalking

Also, I am going to get rid of smartphone pretty soon.

fair enough

no im annoyed at people rejecting something out of hand with "technical" arguments without actually reading about the thing they're shittalking

should we research deeply everything that seems like abad idea? there's only 24 hours per day ?

Though, you can run an Android app in an emulator or a VM.

should we research deeply everything that seems like abad idea? there's only 24 hours per day ?

thats not what i'm saying, what im saying is that when someone links an article and you shit on it, you should have the decency to read the article first

should we research deeply everything that seems like abad idea? there's only 24 hours per day ?

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thats not what i'm saying, what im saying is that when someone links an article and you shit on it, you should have the decency to read the article first

I don't think it's about an article. It's a concept of keeping keys on phone. :)

thats not what i'm saying, what im saying is that when someone links an article and you shit on it, you should have the decency to read the article first

I simply don't like the idea of any 3rd party application handling my private keys and thats all I've said, how this is shitting on anything

I don't think it's about an article. It's a concept of keeping keys on phone. :)

This ^

lmao

whatever u say m8

I simply don't like the idea of any 3rd party application handling my private keys and thats all I've said, how this is shitting on anything

This ^

Btw, I think that law about mandatory giving keys to govt is already in action here. So, being catched with phone for anything, there is a possibility for me that I would have to give up those keys.

Just because they're on my device.

whatever u say m8

Seriously, I carry these keys on encrypted USB key, and the files have 4 encryption layers.

Btw, I think that law about mandatory giving keys to govt is already in action here. So, being catched with phone for anything, there is a possibility for me that I would have to give up those keys.

don't signal or telegram use asymmetric crypto as well? that would make them essentially illegal ?

don't signal or telegram use asymmetric crypto as well? that would make them essentially illegal ?

Thats why I already use proxy for it.

So when it gets banned I would stay connected.

Telegram traffic is pretty slim to be hidden in SSH tunnel with gzip compression.

Seriously, I carry these keys on encrypted USB key, and the files have 4 encryption layers.

In fact, you can't keep you keys if anyone want to get it....

In fact, you can't keep you keys if anyone want to get it....

In fact, I will not make it easier to them to get it by uploading it theirs cloud services.

Have you tried anydesk?

No, I can't do ssh with X forwarding

In fact, I will not make it easier to them to get it by uploading it theirs cloud services.

Thermo-rectal-crypto-analyzer can decrypt any passwords. And here we need to remember this... :(

Thermo-rectal-crypto-analyzer can decrypt any passwords. And here we need to remember this... :(

decrypt*

ERROR: S client not available

Hey guys

And decryption speed doesn't correlate with encryption strength.

But rectothermal is more convenient.

It has higher opportunity to decrypt the code without leaving noticeable traces.

In fact, you can't keep you keys if anyone want to get it....

I would never bring my everyday laptop or encrypted USB to USA airports, I would prefer to go through Panama and later to the Netherlands in order to go to Europe.

Sad, but true.

And decryption speed doesn't correlate with encryption strength.

Yep. About 5 sec...

decrypt*

Oops.

Sad, but true.

u_u

Yep. About 5 sec...

Nah, count the time that zond would heat up.

Nah, count the time that zond would heat up.

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Whatever, thats really veeeery far from the topic.

Thermo-rectal-crypto-analyzer can decrypt any passwords. And here we need to remember this... :(

No, if you will destroy encryption key.

No, if you will destroy encryption key.

Then you're just fucked. :)

Lulz

Then you're just fucked. :)

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It depends on country of course.

I would just give up and give the password immediately given the people asking would be scary enough, no special equipment necessary

insert xkcd about 5$ wrench

I'm not even hiding this fact

ok I have to admit, I came back home, read a little bit about kryptonite and it doesn't seem that bad

Right?

I'm not sure I'd trust it, but I have to admit that it seems thought out

on the other side it can't be worse than the key I have in ConnectBot on my Android already ?

Hi, does anyone know how to force enable the magic sysrq in fedora?

I did echo "1" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq

And the sysrq will always back to the default value 16 after reboot

Hi, does anyone know how to force enable the magic sysrq in fedora?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Sysrq

Ty