Man u void

$ cat fox.py $

You are empty.

So LXQT is kinda light and dietetic KDE for hardware with limited resources.

You are empty.

You don't have the real fox.py! :)

So LXQT is kinda light and dietetic KDE for hardware with limited resources.

I don't think it has many in common with KDE; it's as much KDE as LXDE was a "dietetic Gnome" ;) KDE is a whole ecosystem and an application framework

Nice an initiative Python Classroom Lab banner Teach Python easily. https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

Looks awesome :) Will have to try it in a virtual machine at home, as I will try to force a few of my friends to learn Python soon :)

Wow! So there is no anymore Fedora for 32bit architecture? http://mirrors.rit.edu/fedora/fedora/linux/releases/test/26_Alpha/Workstation/

Nope. 32-bits architecture has been dropped in the last release if I'm not mistaken.

Nope. 32-bits architecture has been dropped in the last release if I'm not mistaken.

25 has i686 still.

And idk about current Rawhide.

Nope. 32-bits architecture has been dropped in the last release if I'm not mistaken.

I know because fedora don't start on my eeepc

Oh, now I understand.

I didn't know your eepc was 32-bit

Because fedora doesn't support my pc, it isn't in this list https://www.google.it/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EeePc&ved=0ahUKEwieiduvqr_TAhVCvRQKHWgGDgYQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNH36khESi2KOutEVqfSXxK8cW7-eQ&sig2=sLDfpAhwKf2qDCmSB2fu4A

I know because fedora don't start on my eeepc

Use Fedora 25 i686 then.

It supports x86 arch.

I wonder how hard it would be to maintain 32bit architecture unofficially, and if anyone would feel like doing it

I am sad that major distros started to drop x86.

I do understand it, it's harder and harder to find x86 hardware in the wild. I sure hope Linux itself will still support it (and I'm pretty sure it will), so we will still have unofficial archs and whatnot

I do understand it, it's harder and harder to find x86 hardware in the wild. I sure hope Linux itself will still support it (and I'm pretty sure it will), so we will still have unofficial archs and whatnot

Hah. I cna find you x86 hardware in any place here.

In the wild and in the zoo.

Use Fedora 25 i686 then.

Where i download it?

Where i download it?

On official site as well.

There is i686 version there.

Hah. I cna find you x86 hardware in any place here.

I don't doubt it, that's why I think it won't be a problem to find volunteers to make unofficial builds for x86

I mean, come on, there are enough volunteers to make 10th Ubuntu spinoff that will "just work" and "provide great user experience" by making everything look like a mac knockoff

if Pidora was existing, I'm sure x86dora will come alive as well :)

I don't doubt it, that's why I think it won't be a problem to find volunteers to make unofficial builds for x86

I'd not mind to be one, plus i think you can compile software for x86 at x86-64 PC, can't you?

I mean, come on, there are enough volunteers to make 10th Ubuntu spinoff that will "just work" and "provide great user experience" by making everything look like a mac knockoff

You mean Elementary OS?

I'd not mind to be one, plus i think you can compile software for x86 at x86-64 PC, can't you?

I guess you can do cross compilation everywhere ;)

I'd not mind to be one, plus i think you can compile software for x86 at x86-64 PC, can't you?

It's not that easy.

Not only compilation, you need testing and debugging

You mean Elementary OS?

Elementary at least creates some custom stuff, but these things pop up once a while

I mean, come on, there are enough volunteers to make 10th Ubuntu spinoff that will "just work" and "provide great user experience" by making everything look like a mac knockoff

???

For me x86 can die.

It's not that easy.

You can always get an x86 vm. Or install x86 OS on x86-64 hardware.

You can always get an x86 vm. Or install x86 OS on x86-64 hardware.

Yes you can.

But should you?

there are people forced by their circumstances to use x86, and there surely will be people willing co volunteer to help them run Linux

But should you?

Have to. Because I use x86 so wide that if doing LFS would be my only option of getting that archirtecture to work on Linux, I wouls do that.

I guess noone actually prefers to use x86 over x86_64, so yeah

I guess noone actually prefers to use x86 over x86_64, so yeah

This exactly.

Have to. Because I use x86 so wide that if doing LFS would be my only option of getting that archirtecture to work on Linux, I wouls do that.

I meant in general.

This exactly.

Not everybody have a choice though.

There's 0 reason to use x86 today.

There's 0 reason to use x86 today.

not having x86_64 is a valid reason

There's 0 reason to use x86 today.

No reason. But reason is irrelevant when you can only use x86.

not having x86_64 is a valid reason

Nah. It isn't.

Last 15 years at least there have been computers with x86_64

I am not a rich person to update all my hardware park to x86-64.

guys, seriously, we've been trough this discussion once already

So, idk, if there would be a community driven x86 support, count me in.

x86 devices can still be used, maintaining stuff for them is a certain cost and it's okay for major distros to ditch it, but as Linux and GNU will still support it, volunteers can make it happen if they need it

There is i686 version there.

Can yoi link me fedora 25 i686 pls

There's 0 reason to use x86 today.

I totally agree

x86 devices can still be used, maintaining stuff for them is a certain cost and it's okay for major distros to ditch it, but as Linux and GNU will still support it, volunteers can make it happen if they need it

I think that's a wasting of efforts

I think that's a wasting of efforts

Agreed

I think that's a wasting of efforts

if someone needs it then its not wasted

if someone needs it then its not wasted

Nobody need it more than Amiga users or riscos users. It's an end of an era

if someone needs it then its not wasted

What is that percentage compared to the world?

Could also buy ARM devices

It always happen in information technology

Indeed

Guys

Where is the download for fedora 25 i686?

Nobody need it more than Amiga users or riscos users. It's an end of an era

some people have only x86, also schools and other places. Other words: if I'd need it and I'd do it, and I feel its not a wasted effort, then it's not

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It would be if it'd be officially supported

but as a hobby or because someone personally needs it? come on

some people have only x86, also schools and other places. Other words: if I'd need it and I'd do it, and I feel its not a wasted effort, then it's not

If schools have only x86 machines then they have to rethink their priorities

If schools have only x86 machines then they have to rethink their priorities

This

Because 15 years in IT are geological era

but as a hobby or because someone personally needs it? come on

There's better ways to waste your time

Where is the download for fedora 25 i686?

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/25/Workstation/i386/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-i386-25-1.3.iso

You could focus on inventing the future instead of supporting the past

i686 - dunno

It's like teaching how to use the commodore 64 when pople uses windows 95

You could focus on inventing the future instead of supporting the past

God bless you

tip: there are some poor countries where it's either outdated stuff or nothing at all

tip: there are some poor countries where it's either outdated stuff or nothing at all

Like I said, go ARM

ARM devices are dirt cheap and powerful

Arm devices are the way

Like I said, go ARM

they already have old machines though

And regarding electric bill, much more efficient than x86

Savings everywhere!

Bit they pay the energy

they already have old machines though

Would you teach your kids with an Apple II?

I wouldn't

I definitely would.

teaching them low level programming on a limited platform to encourage creativity? sounds awesome, but that's not the point

teaching them low level programming on a limited platform to encourage creativity? sounds awesome, but that's not the point

It is the point

x86 is a push back for poor countries

X86 is owned by Intel and they dictate what the platform can and cannot do

Poor countries should break free of proprietary platforms

Software and hardware

If you are a creative programmer that know how to low-level code, there are fewer jobs for you in the real world

Otherwise they will be slaves forever

you obviously don't live in a country where it is a problem

I live in a rich country and I still wish x86 wasn't so omnipresent