I enabled testing updates

Give me a second to find the links.

and it broke

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1417431

do you mean this?

it used to say broken dependencies eariler

oooohhh, this fixed somebody else issue on #fedora-latam mailing list.

No matching package to install: 'libglvnd-core-devel'

ded

There is no need to enable it, I just upgraded my GNOME Shell without issues. The pending packages will be upgraded when the new build arrives to stable.

I'll downgrade then

file /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 from install of mesa-libGL-12.0.3-3.fc25.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libglvnd-glx-1:0.2.999-7.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64 file /usr/lib64/libGLESv2.so.2.0.0 from install of mesa-libGLES-12.0.3-3.fc25.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libglvnd-gles-1:0.2.999-7.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64

reeee

I'll downgrade then

This will fix it.

BTW, I upgraded without the testing-update repo enabled.

I have to check if having mixed some of the mesa-* package damages the system, I just upgraded and turned off my laptop.

I will check.

it's not downgrading for me

Laptop boot up with no issues.

I can boot

but I cant install bumblebee

As I said before, I did the partial upgraded without enabling testing-repo.

Read dnf man page.

There is a dnf history

dnf info history let's you see the last changes made by dnf

Every change has an ID, number.

Figure out the last change you made, the one that upgraded mesa and roll it back.

Use a text based session if Xorg is not showing up.

xorg is working

This is new to me and I don't have a Nvidia based hardware.

No package libglvnd-1:0.2.999-7.gitdc16f8c.fc25.i686 installed. Error: An operation cannot be undone

rip

I'll just format it if I get sick of it tbh

already have a usb stick ready

Developers reading this: WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN? DONT BREAK USER SPACE, DON'T PUSH SOFTWARE WITH BROKEN DEPENDENCIES TO RAWHIDE OR STABLE

I'll just format it if I get sick of it tbh

:/

I dont have anything important becuase I'm spring break :)

This is why users don't help with Rawhide, you never know when it is going to be some wannabe pushing updates without testing on their machines before pushing it to Rawhide or Stable.

I dont have anything important becuase I'm spring break :)

Hopefully.

hopefully everything works

I don't remember how bumblebee worked for me last time

optimus is evil

The upgrades for Mesa are already on the stable repo:

I'll manage somehow

thanks lad

You are welcome.

did they update the kernel too?

did they update the kernel too?

Yeap.

Done!

Laptop boot up with no issues.

This comment is GOLD: See where this is going? It's 2017 already and I can feel the dependency hell starting. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1417431#c9

shhhhip

looks loke mesa-libGL or smth is ok now

looks loke mesa-libGL or smth is ok now

Yeah it is.

Yeah it is.

mesa developers read your message :D

mesa developers read your message :D

Nah: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DGBDGETZVVO6AEGTZDWOVJPLLF6Y7V4L/

But as I said before, if they were more careful about pushing broken stuff with broken dependencies more people would be brave enough to run Fedora Rawhide as its daily OS.

Do you know that there are Fedora Packagers that don't use Rawhide at all?

And the worst thing is that they push this kind of messy stuff to stable branches (fc24 and fc25), so they prefer to break stable releases instead of breaking Rawhide, What a joke what an irony.

Do you know that there are Fedora Packagers that don't use Rawhide at all?

I guess it shouldn't use unstable things....

but they know about it

I guess it shouldn't use unstable things....

That is a common misunderstanding the same maintainers have created.

ERROR: S client not available

and stiil use

maybe they have some reasons...

I guess it shouldn't use unstable things....

Unstable should not be a synonym of "broken" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DIR6HTSC4J2OO745SZ53RNEKAAOP4PWE/

Then, because of the lack of alpha an beta tester, devs and maintainers end up pushing broken stuff to stable, this worth the read: http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=916

Unstable should not be a synonym of "broken" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DIR6HTSC4J2OO745SZ53RNEKAAOP4PWE/

Don't these guys able to make kinda comment to the package like "This package have dependencies in rawhide"

Don't these guys able to make kinda comment to the package like "This package have dependencies in rawhide"

They should wait until the whole set is complete and ready to be shipped...

I mean, ready all the packages and their criticals dependencies.

why they have to hurry...

why they have to hurry...

I don't know.

maybe deadlines... sort of...

I'll manage somehow

Hey, give an eye to this comment, the last one suggest to remove some glvnd packages, but as the folk pointed, you should do that in a non graphical session, even if you have access to a graphical session you should avoid removing the packages because chances are that by removing them will make xorg crash, in a non-graphical session shouldn't cause any problem: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/100988/broken-dependecies/?answer=100999#post-id-100999

To start in a non-graphical session follow the step listed on this how to, this is temporal, them remove the bugged packages, and upgrade again, now the upgrades are on stable it should fix the unsatisfied dependencies: https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2012/howto-change-runlevel-on-grub2/

Okay, I have a possible issue in Fedora 25. After upgrade three monitor setup stopped working, I'm using X; my graphics are Intel HD Graphics 4000 integrated into laptop. Anyone have any ideas?

Good morning

Good morning, sir.

Good morning everyone

Good morning everyone

Good evening :p

Welcome abroad

How to determine which graphics card is used for application? A am on laptop with Intel HD 4000 and GT 740M (Fedora 25).

Do you have nvidia-primus installed?

With that you can control which application uses intel or Nvidia

Using the default drivers you can export the variable DRI_PRIME=1 before the command

But we recommend you to use a window manager like xfce, cause gnome and cinnamon have problems

KDE it's very good too

And the worst thing is that they push this kind of messy stuff to stable branches (fc24 and fc25), so they prefer to break stable releases instead of breaking Rawhide, What a joke what an irony.

To me this makes no sense at all. It breaks the whole purpose of the Rawhide=>Testing=>stable schema.

Do you have nvidia-primus installed?

no.

I'm the second day with Linux)

But we recommend you to use a window manager like xfce, cause gnome and cinnamon have problems

Problems with... what?

Yes

Gnome and cinnamon have problems with composition

When you call for prime