A simple single pass with random data or even 0s will make it irrecoverable alright.

I've heard some rumors about special restoring programs that was maked by Roscomnadzor(Russian committee of watch and control)

But maybe it's just a stupid rumors

Just say some random prime number and you are done, ie 2017.

Thank you sir, for clearing this up and bringing the secrets to the table..

I've heard some rumors about special restoring programs that was maked by Roscomnadzor(Russian committee of watch and control)

Are you Snowden?

Are you Snowden?

No, it's popular internet rumor

I've heard some rumors about special restoring programs that was maked by Roscomnadzor(Russian committee of watch and control)

No.

There is literally NO WAY to recover data that's been overwritten once on modern hard drives.

Literally no way.

Thank you sir, for clearing this up and bringing the secrets to the table..

If tomorrow people find me dead... you all know the secret and the reason...

I mean, 10 years ago when disks were massive and had a mere 50 GBs maybe it was possible.

A 3 TB HDD ... Yeah. You're not going to get anything out of that.

No, it's popular internet rumor

Manning for sure...

I hate Roscomnadzor, they have blocked Pornhub

Bye folks, I consumed my procrastination quota for this day. Stay safe.

hey mr P!

fancy glasses though

And torrent websites too. Thanks to new Opera with out-of-box support of VPN

fancy glasses though

It stand for "Deal with it" :p

:D

And torrent websites too. Thanks to new Opera with out-of-box support of VPN

> Using Opera "VPN"

> Using Opera "VPN"

It sends X-Forwarded-For, though, lol

It sends X-Forwarded-For, though, lol

?

I didn't know that but I expected it somewhat

You can just use nginx with the real_ip module, add Opera's allocations, and it'll translate it for you

People try to use Opera and Google VPNs to bypass the fraud detection on my company's website; it's hilarious

> Using Opera "VPN"

it is crap like those gropbox and onedrive

Most of the staff never even see the Opera IPs, just the X-Forwarded-For IPs

Is there some two-step verificational password generators for Linux?

Is there some two-step verificational password generators for Linux?

plenty actually

Is there some two-step verificational password generators for Linux?

You mean an app that tracks 2FA passwords?

I saw some web based

Er, tokens, rather

You really shouldn't use software for OTP, though. Unless it's on a phone that hasn't been rooted/jailbroken with no sideloaded software.

And even then, it's a bit risky.

You mean an app that tracks 2FA passwords?

How to explain this...Like Steam guard but for lots of sites

(You risk turning it from 2FA into 2x 1FA)

How to explain this...Like Steam guard but for lots of sites

I know what you mean by 2FA. Just wasn't sure if you meant a password manager that requires a second factor before you can access your passwords.

(Usually when people talk about 2FA, they're talking about TOTP, specifically)

You really shouldn't use software for OTP, though. Unless it's on a phone that hasn't been rooted/jailbroken with no sideloaded software.

My phone cannot be rooted or jailbraked, it's Microsoft Lumia. Too crap for the hacker attacks(really, new versions of firmware cannot be jailbraked at all. You can install or launch the apps only from the store)

My phone cannot be rooted or jailbraked, it's Microsoft Lumia. Too crap for the hacker attacks(really, new versions of firmware cannot be jailbraked at all. You can install or launch the apps only from the store)

Yeah, that should work fine

You can use Azure Authenticator

Pretty sure that supports TOTP and HOTP

And it's also has their own ARM-based architecture(and its a crap) named Krait

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/microsoft-authenticator/9nblgggzmcj6

Sometimes proprietary software can have some little advantages

Looks like that supports TOTP

No, I want it for PC

There is no way?

There is no way?

There is, but it's inherently insecure. You're essentially eliminating the security of the second factor.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secureauth-otp/cjpfiickajaodicfcmkfgdicnlhaompc

One way.

Wait, not that.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gauth-authenticator/jcmgkikfgdbehjdajjdnebnnmmknfblm

This works, though.

That sounds like the sort of thing I'd expect to steal your seeds. :P

If you really need the convenience, you can use something like a YubiKey

He asked for a way to have his TOTP tokens on his computer.

That is one way.

Yeah, it is

Doesn't mean it's a good idea :P

You can also use Authy by the way. It offers cloud sync, encrypted with password and such.

Yubico has a desktop app for Linux, I believe

And that way the seed never actually enters the computer

There is, but it's inherently insecure. You're essentially eliminating the security of the second factor.

I know, but I'm securing not from the hackers but from the close people

Ah, then yeah, what @LianTianRong said would probably work

Yubico has a desktop app for Linux, I believe

For which you need a somewhat expensive piece of hardware.

Look, I own a Yubikey. And what he asked for is probably not the best idea.

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For which you need a somewhat expensive piece of hardware.

Yes, but this is a security chat, after all :P

Yes, but this is a security chat, after all :P

I thought this was a Fedora chat ?

Oh

Hey! You're right!

xD

Wrong chat. Ignore me!

So one tip of "this is not secure" is OK. 5 thousands is probably not welcome.

And I agree. He shouldn't use it. But I think that's pretty clear to him already :P

The apps your pointed out are probably secure enough for most people. I just thought this was the security chat. :P

^^

Yesterday I readed a blog about the ising of Object Pascal in 2017(Yes, that's weird). For hacking and network-testing utils.

I'm taking Pascal classes at my CS&E degree

someone kill me

What do you think about it?

That's one language I know nothing about, lol

Well, that's a aincient language, it's modern version named Delphi was popular in 2000's

We studied Pascal at school

That was kinda funny

One of my first programmer friends was a big Delphi fan

GCC 1.0 was based on Pascal

And also Photoshop 1.0 and some part of Skype

And now everything's based on JavaScript xD

And that's crap

Well, it's portable and asynchronous

Atom text editor based on java script is the worst text editor in IT history

Worse than notepad.exe? :P

The main problem with Electron apps is that they get bloated very easily.

I have an Intel Atom-based tapled with full version of Win10(tablet cannot run a Linux) and when I have installed atom, my tabled just crashed in BSOD

Atom text editor based on java script is the worst text editor in IT history

have you never seen that text editor which you have to input bit streams

like it can only understand 0 and 1

Punch cards? :P

Worse than notepad.exe? :P

Notepad.exe cannot cause a BSOD