Mate is fork of gnome2

Yes.

Gnome 3 woth arcdark, a few extensions and gnome-tweak-tool still beats it

Sure, I can restore the os with Time Machine. But still it was unfortunate. Macos lives on HDD pretty well, but this OCZ vector 150 might be particular in some way

Did you try install from CD?

There is an option to take system iso and burn it. If you do not have mac os cd

Did you try install from CD?

No. I tried only from the network restore. Does it make a difference? OSX installed on HDD just fine. And I installed it on my first SSD and it worked for about a year. But then something broke. OCZ changed my SSD twice. And I changed SATA cable to ensure it's not a MacBook fault. As for now, two SSDs died index osx (one of them worked one day) but HDD doesn't die for months. So I still cannot clearly decide who is responsible for the problem. Notably, SSD doesn't care being under Linux for months. It could be some OCZ-OSX capability problem, I guess. It's vector 150 model, to be specific. Hope I won't be banned for this macos discussion ;)

Well, now I turned to beloved Fedora which I used several years ago. I wanted to ask the chat whether someone else experienced MCE errors with broadcom 4330 wifi adapter on MBP'11. This is the only thing that bothers me now. Wifi network accidentally becomes unreachable for a couple of minutes.

Well, now I turned to beloved Fedora which I used several years ago. I wanted to ask the chat whether someone else experienced MCE errors with broadcom 4330 wifi adapter on MBP'11. This is the only thing that bothers me now. Wifi network accidentally becomes unreachable for a couple of minutes.

Looks strange to me, but I'm not an Apple user. Did you look at Bugzilla to see if there's a reported bug for this?

I also find it to be strange. I didn't look directly at bugzilla, only tried to google it. I'll look for it tomorrow, thanks. I got stuck with mcelog. I see MCE errors in dmesg, but didn't find out how to track the problem in detail. To be honest I didn't spend much time for it. I shall continue the search tomorrow. MCE thing is new to me.

I think you should try it from cd or flash drive. Just to be sure, that there is no way to install. this will like force system to install

Please, come back with whatever you find out @shvgn Also, I know there's a couple of people who are OSX users in the QA team, maybe one of them knows what to do.

I think you should try it from cd or flash drive. Just to be sure, that there is no way to install. this will like force system to install

Well, to clarify, it did install in most cases, but could not boot even the first time. Just seemed unable to find its partition. Still big question to me.

Please, come back with whatever you find out @shvgn Also, I know there's a couple of people who are OSX users in the QA team, maybe one of them knows what to do.

Thank you

You're welcome.

Well, to clarify, it did install in most cases, but could not boot even the first time. Just seemed unable to find its partition. Still big question to me.

Oh Macos uses modified efi. So you may have to burn some linux bootrecovery distro and boot from it to repair. It could be done with new fedora writer tool, but before you should erase flash drive and create fat32 partition on it. This is demand to flash drive to boot into efi. Or can erase entire macos disk and with burnt fat23 flash drive reinstall in.

And yet again the problem with efi on MacOS!

you did try gnome2 in those days?

I did. But xfce had always been my main DE that time.

And yet again the problem with efi on MacOS!

Some Macs use 32bit UEFI

And yet again the problem with efi on MacOS!

Mac os is too "closed" to be used like normal computer. If user is a freaking linuxman who likes mount drives manually, there probably would be some issues with os usage. Just as with other windows

Linux(for example) has no limits how to boot system. I'm a seasoned mac os user, but with a greater understanding of linux I want to give up mac os. it melts my brain lol

Mac os is too "closed" to be used like normal computer. If user is a freaking linuxman who likes mount drives manually, there probably would be some issues with os usage. Just as with other windows

No, I was referring to a particular issue that gave us a big headache before Fedora 25 was released.

No, I was referring to a particular issue that gave us a big headache before Fedora 25 was released.

This is a thing too :D

Yeah!

Upgrading to F25

Oh, good! Let us know how it goes ?

Will do miss @Kohane

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I like the name, "shadowfax"

Outdated Furries

Furry…? Like that one?

Hello all

I need help about add structure to desktop in fedora 25

Hello! Welcome here!

Tnx

Welcome ?

Welcome ?

Can u slove my problem?

Im using KDE

I need help about add structure to desktop in fedora 25

Structure?

I need help about add structure to desktop in fedora 25

What is the problem? What structure?

Maybe... If you tell us what is it about...

Oh sorry i mean icons

So you want to display folders on the desktop?

Like this?

So you want to display folders on the desktop?

Application shortcuts

Yup

Like the Firefox in the picture I sent?

Like the Firefox in the picture I sent?

Ya

OK

That looks oldschool lol, no offense

That looks oldschool lol, no offense

I thought the same ?

What is the problem? What structure?

Sorry im activate automatic correction in keyboard

Design metaphors change. I don't think the designers from 2006 take offense from your message. What you see on the screenshot was considered beautiful back then.

Design metaphors change. I don't think the designers from 2006 take offense from your message. What you see on the screenshot was considered beautiful back then.

yeah, things change

So any KDE users here?

Design metaphors change. I don't think the designers from 2006 take offense from your message. What you see on the screenshot was considered beautiful back then.

Yes, that's true. Things change very quickly

So any KDE users here?

Yup. Me

So any KDE users here?

I used Plasma 5 months ago but I gave up.

So any KDE users here?

Tried it, screen tearing everywhere, gave up 3 hours later

Yup. Me

Yes I know. But you're having the problem. I'm asking whether someone else here uses KDE and could help you.

ERROR: S client not available

Yes I know. But you're having the problem. I'm asking whether someone else here uses KDE and could help you.

Ok..

Yes I know. But you're having the problem. I'm asking whether someone else here uses KDE and could help you.

Oh, that's easy

Set it up to folder view.

Set it up to folder view.

Where?

Or add plasmoids with the icons you want, via right click => add plasmoid.

Or add plasmoids with the icons you want, via right click => add plasmoid.

Im trying that.. And nothing happened

Where?

Right click on on an empty space of the screen and choose Settings.

Im trying that.. And nothing happened

Mmm... ?

And click on the cashew doesn't work?

Or whatever the icon is now. I think they use lines or something like that.

When i go home.. I'll sending screenshot to my options

Only in fedora 25 i got this problem

I can't read but I guess it's that

I can't read but I guess it's that

Ok.. Tnx

Hey, I was thinking about having 2 different Fedora installs on my laptop, I managed to triple boot W8/Debian 8/Fedora22 now 25, is it possible to run 2 different Fedoras install in a uefi system the one isolated from the other same as Debian W8 and Fedora 25 are doing on my laptop, without conflicting one Fedora 25 with the other Fedora 25 looking to become a Fedora Rawhide? Does anybody has done this before? PS: I don't want to use Fedora Rawhide in a VM, I prefer to run it on bare metal :D?

You can just make sure /boot and /boot/edited are big enough

Hmm interesting. The other question I have is about /boot/efi/ this resides on sda2 and under it I have 3 directories: windows fedora debian my plan is to install the new Fedora on the space that is currently used by Debian, which is an encrypted volume for / /home swap, /boot has it own partition one for Fedora one for Debian, but I'm not sure what is going to happen with /boot/efi —-> /dev/sda2/fedora/grub.efi ... any idea? If this doesn't work I will have to rely on Fedora Rawhide ? until I reinstall Debian again.

Lsblk -f |faster and share pls

linuxmodder: cccccccduitferjirdjdgtcvhgijncnvicjvgukedcub

linuxmodder: sorry

BTW, Fedora and Debian have different encrypted volumes and /boot, this is why I'm worried about /boot/efi that is shared by 3 OS's

linuxmodder: wrong window

linuxmodder: cccccccduitferjirdjdgtcvhgijncnvicjvgukedcub

Sure, give me a second.

Lsblk -f |faster and share pls

Ooops, sure wait a second.

linuxmodder: pionen[m], I have Win 10 and Fedora 25 ( Fedora on luks'd lvm)

linuxmodder: pionen[m], I have Win 10 and Fedora 25 ( Fedora on luks'd lvm)

Same here.

Almost the same.

Lsblk -f |faster and share pls

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/513551/28087221

linuxmodder: so sda7/8 are debian and sharing sda7 for /boot ?

linuxmodder: am i reading that right

linuxmodder: sh: lsblk-: command not found