i mean i use old macintosh icons

was pretty influencial in ambient music for example

i mean i use old macintosh icons

still FreeBSD

I don't agree with Stallman on everything, (if I did, I wouldn't have a job) and while I think he's got some good ideas, he goes completely too far in some cases

aren't BSDs using, like, bash 3.2 ?

aren't BSDs using, like, bash 3.2 ?

woh! Too new. Go down with the version a little more

OpenBSD uses ksh by default and recommends against using bash at all

OpenBSD uses ksh by default and recommends against using bash at all

what's wrong with bash

https://github.com/grassmunk/Platinum9

best

or should i say

what is too wrong with bash for the OpenBSD guys

In fact the official advice is to rewrite bash specific scripts in POSIX compliant shell

It's bloated and poorly written (according to the devs on the mailing list)

In fact the official advice is to rewrite bash specific scripts in POSIX compliant shell

what if i need arrays and don't want to rely on set hacks

https://github.com/grassmunk/Platinum9

Xubuntu ? Come on' !

or string manipulations

or declare / typeset code candy

?

?

Then you are at the point where you need a POSIX compliant C application

It's bloated and poorly written (according to the devs on the mailing list)

they are arguably right

Or a Perl script maybe

altho some of the bloat is actually quite nice

I think shellshock put them off a fair bit

Xubuntu ? Come on' !

it just says xubuntu

it works on everything

it just says xubuntu

ah ok

I think shellshock put them off a fair bit

if beep had vulnerabilities, everything can

if beep had vulnerabilities, everything can

it's software. There's no such thing as perfect software.

Yeah, and that's why everything (in base at least) is pretty old is because they are very risk averse. Although they manage that by putting almost nothing in base

on one hand i do agree that using insecure software is a bad idea, on the other hand throwing something away every time an issue appears isn't a maintanable way of doing things

(absolutely not talking about the devs who removed the feature to run executables in nautilus a week ago)

if a program crashes once you keep using the program right

pcmanfm >

i use the coreutils to manage my files to be honest

oh yeah i forgot you're clinically insane

oh yeah i forgot you're clinically insane

i mean, i use bash

Wait, you think that ls, cp and mv is a bad way to manage files

??

i have zsh in my bashrc because i am lazy beyond belief

for 2 weeks I dropped oh-my-zsh for oh-my-bash. Things are much more simpler

i have zsh in my bashrc because i am lazy beyond belief

what

my .bashrc just has "zsh" in it

Wait, you think that ls, cp and mv is a bad way to manage files

its not the most friendly for some everyday tasks

5 more years and I'll punch holes in cardboard again...

I don't agree with Stallman on everything, (if I did, I wouldn't have a job) and while I think he's got some good ideas, he goes completely too far in some cases

Such as?

gui managers are great at some things

its not the most friendly for some everyday tasks

depends, it usually doesn't get in my way

its not the most friendly for some everyday tasks

Like what

except for photography

depends, it usually doesn't get in my way

how about thumbnails

except for photography

^

i'm scared of terminal based stuff

gimme guis thanks

yeah when i'm sorting the pictures i took after a photography day, not having a graphical manager is annoying

altho sxiv has a gallery mode

if jesus has to approve stallman, then who...

He (Jesus) is always right!

@Wolfshappen Do I recall you have an x230?

Yes! :3

i'm scared of terminal based stuff

why are you lying to us

Such as?

I don't like his view on SaaS, it can be very useful and definitely shouldn't be shunned. (That's the one that would put me out of a job). His refusal to watch netflix, despite their being no good copyright/DRM free films or TV. I don't think it's crazy not to pay for netflix, but not to watch anyone's seems insane

what

why are you lying to us

wym

He (Jesus) is always right!

that's why carnage was in Jerusalem these days...

wym

are you really scared by terminal based UIs ?

I don't like his view on SaaS, it can be very useful and definitely shouldn't be shunned. (That's the one that would put me out of a job). His refusal to watch netflix, despite their being no good copyright/DRM free films or TV. I don't think it's crazy not to pay for netflix, but not to watch anyone's seems insane

480p amazon

Yes! :3

I was looking at getting one shortly to replace my dead T410. Any issues or is it smooth sailing

are you really scared by terminal based UIs ?

i'm not scared, mostly just intimidated

ERROR: S client not available

like partitioning with a terminal is the scariest possible thing you can do on a computer

480p amazon

Do you mean 480p videos on amazon?

oh yeah i forgot you're clinically insane

Remember what I said?

like partitioning with a terminal is the scariest possible thing you can do on a computer

Until you do it regularly enough you know what you are doing

Remember what I said?

It was tech related

It was tech related

The insult was?

Remember what I said?

no joking allowed, got it

The insult was?

Yeah, it was about using coreutils as a file manager

no joking allowed, got it

No insulting* allowed. See the pinned message.

I was looking at getting one shortly to replace my dead T410. Any issues or is it smooth sailing

Well, you likely want to replace the thermal paste for one

Joking is different than insulting

No insulting* allowed. See the pinned message.

is it insulting if i'm okay with it

it's a real question

marin and i are friends

is it insulting if i'm okay with it

There's still a code of conduct in the group, and other people might start too.

that's why carnage was in Jerusalem these days...

read Matthew's gospel, chapter 24, and understand it.... (no, I didn't start this, but I hope now is over)

There's still a code of conduct in the group, and other people might start too.

the size of the channel may justify that rule

Do you mean 480p videos on amazon?

Yes, without widevine (afaik) amazon allows you to playback 240k music (files will have watermarks linked to your account embedded) - and prime video or netflix allowd 480p playback when widevine is not installed

understandable

And really, if i had to choose between widevin and 480 - its 480.

understandable

Yeah, thanks for understanding, and hopefully, following.

i was the one enforcing rules for a long time, so yeah

read Matthew's gospel, chapter 24, and understand it.... (no, I didn't start this, but I hope now is over)

KJV ?

And really, if i had to choose between widevin and 480 - its 480.

Same here, but stallman would argue that he couldn't watch the content because it was copyrighted and owned by someone

I mean, does that mean he won't watch live TV because someone owns the content that is broadcasted?

stallman has some points

i was the one enforcing rules for a long time, so yeah

Here? Oh, what happened?

No insulting* allowed. See the pinned message.

I don't see an insult rule in the CoC

Here? Oh, what happened?

got bored

the Be respectful rule seems to be about when you're arguing with someone

I don't see an insult rule in the CoC

Be civil, etc etc. Plus its a human thing too.

KJV ?

I have AMPlified, but KJV is a really good choice