Another "What?" to the collection ?

What?

I wasn't giving him any :P

Yeah, he comes from Ubuntu, maybe he didn't know about Kali, and you go and mention it.

I've got three theories: 1) He is a troll. Simple as that. 2) He is what he claims. (Community manager in some Turkey open source movement) He simply doesn't know English and there is a communication issue. 3) He has a really high opinion of himself and doesn't believe in theory. He is a skiddie who wants to be spoonfed. I also believe he has been on telegram for a long time due to a particular group he has in common with me.

i'll be back

Like Terminator....

Yeah, he comes from Ubuntu, maybe he didn't know about Kali, and you go and mention it.

But Kali is the ultimate H@k0rz distro

“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Anonymous what i mean you can have tons of rules or documents but human factor and irrationality ( look at game theory ) changes the routine and happenings in security most important thing is not source code in practice it is the shape of organization and human relationships

y u threa10 me? I will h@ck ur IP address naow

I've got three theories: 1) He is a troll. Simple as that. 2) He is what he claims. (Community manager in some Turkey open source movement) He simply doesn't know English and there is a communication issue. 3) He has a really high opinion of himself and doesn't believe in theory. He is a skiddie who wants to be spoonfed. I also believe he has been on telegram for a long time due to a particular group he has in common with me.

He seems awfully unknowledgeable for a community manager. And incoherent to boot.

<Guest49228> not again! :(

I've got three theories: 1) He is a troll. Simple as that. 2) He is what he claims. (Community manager in some Turkey open source movement) He simply doesn't know English and there is a communication issue. 3) He has a really high opinion of himself and doesn't believe in theory. He is a skiddie who wants to be spoonfed. I also believe he has been on telegram for a long time due to a particular group he has in common with me.

I would add two more theories: 4) He's an alien and therefore his mind works in a completely different way. 5) He has some sort of problem to communicate unrelated to language

“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Anonymous what i mean you can have tons of rules or documents but human factor and irrationality ( look at game theory ) changes the routine and happenings in security most important thing is not source code in practice it is the shape of organization and human relationships

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“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Anonymous what i mean you can have tons of rules or documents but human factor and irrationality ( look at game theory ) changes the routine and happenings in security most important thing is not source code in practice it is the shape of organization and human relationships

How is any of this related to Fedora?

I would add two more theories: 4) He's an alien and therefore his mind works in a completely different way. 5) He has some sort of problem to communicate unrelated to language

I guessing it's the last one

<Guest49228> @IceWreck If he is really a troll then ban him.

I'm tempted.

<Guest49228> @IceWreck If he is really a troll then ban him.

Unfortunately, I don't think he is one.

I'm reeeaaally tempted

I'm reeeaaally tempted

Me too, tbh

How is any of this related to Fedora?

It isn't. It rather sounds like someone who wants to look clever but has no clue what he's talking about.

With all respect!

<Rstallman> okay hexchat is better than polari

It isn't. It rather sounds like someone who wants to look clever but has no clue what he's talking about.

Absolutely

I think the language barrier is a factor to some degree at least

I think the language barrier is a factor to some degree at least

Yeah, I agree and that's why I still can't decide...

I think the language barrier is a factor to some degree at least

His attitude doesn't help much tho, making cryptic statements, not clarifying, making 10 odd members ask what before confusing further.

His attitude doesn't help much tho, making cryptic statements, not clarifying, making 10 odd members ask what before confusing further.

This is also true

His attitude doesn't help much tho, making cryptic statements, not clarifying, making 10 odd members ask what before confusing further.

You missed his lack of reading.

do we have a list of groups and channels in telegram for countries india and others

Why do you ask for an indian group? Are you actually Indian?

You missed his lack of reading.

Yup, that too.

(From the stolen sticker pack)

Why do you ask for an indian group? Are you actually Indian?

He claimed that he is Turkish.

What is it about?

II don't know, but error404 :D

i work with indians in person

I think he wanted a local group like those of India, Brazil, etc. He has communication issues, so nobody is sure what he wants.

yep it is true like ubuntu ports deutschland etc

yep it is true like ubuntu ports deutschland etc

What?

i believe open source software has to be secured more than private applications we need more care for our projects this is what i mean shortly

yep it is true like ubuntu ports deutschland etc

What? Why did ubuntu enter the conversation?

i believe open source software has to be secured more than private applications we need more care for our projects this is what i mean shortly

Ok, why is that relevant here, now?

i work with indians in person

Which parts of India?

Which parts of India?

i work with people who searchs jobs in administration and security there is no single place that i tied to

i work with people who searchs jobs in administration and security there is no single place that i tied to

I see.

Do you deal with the people in English? Which language do you use?

i work with also ubuntu ports community and they have many local communities

i speak write and think in English but in these days especially i tend to redefine all languages

You're certainly "redefining" English. To the point where we can't understand half your statements.

What? Why did ubuntu enter the conversation?

Oh, no... @buredoRUNofthecyborg triggered...

For a Gnome user perspective, I know that it looks good. But it comes crashes as a free gift. But this one is a whole new level! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTXKqIb_2Q

Oh, no... @buredoRUNofthecyborg triggered...

Nah, I'm cool, I'm too sleepy for anything :P

Nah, I'm cool, I'm too sleepy for anything :P

Oh, okay. That explains why you missed his first mention of Ubuntu, early today.

For a Gnome user perspective, I know that it looks good. But it comes crashes as a free gift. But this one is a whole new level! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTXKqIb_2Q

Crashes as free gift? Where? I didn't see any in the video. BTW, I don't like Adapta theme, it's too Material.

And too dark. Also.

Crashes as free gift? Where? I didn't see any in the video. BTW, I don't like Adapta theme, it's too Material.

Last time I checked It was having crashes I hope it is stable now.Also I don't like sddm.

Last time I checked It was having crashes I hope it is stable now.Also I don't like sddm.

So just don't use sddm?

So just don't use sddm?

Yes I don't use that.?

Last time I checked It was having crashes I hope it is stable now.Also I don't like sddm.

It’s stable for me, in two different laptops already....

It’s stable for me, in two different laptops already....

Cool

For a Gnome user perspective, I know that it looks good. But it comes crashes as a free gift. But this one is a whole new level! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTXKqIb_2Q

Anime of course xD

Thats just low-level bait.

Anime of course xD

Anata wa anime ga suki deshou ka? ?? Seriously everywhere on internet I see every 1 in 2 weebs is a linux genious?

Thats just low-level bait.

Yes

Which DE would you use for a PC that will be used by many users (20+) with Windows (and no other) background?

Which DE would you use for a PC that will be used by many users (20+) with Windows (and no other) background?

KDE is very windows like by default

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Which DE would you use for a PC that will be used by many users (20+) with Windows (and no other) background?

Cinnamon.

Which DE would you use for a PC that will be used by many users (20+) with Windows (and no other) background?

For 20 different users, a single pc?

I'd setup a kiosk system thats really restricted so users have their browser and files and at most stuff like LO with locked macros and all

For 20 different users, a single pc?

It's in a hobbyist bar and used mostly for music streaming and some bookkeeping. Usually one user per day but many different users. A kiosk user is planned but I have to decide on a DE that's close enough to Windows so the guys who cannot deal with anything unfamiliar can work with it.

I've heard that cinnamon is easier to theme than KDE would you agree?

It's in a hobbyist bar and used mostly for music streaming and some bookkeeping. Usually one user per day but many different users. A kiosk user is planned but I have to decide on a DE that's close enough to Windows so the guys who cannot deal with anything unfamiliar can work with it.

Is the bookkeeping in-browser?

If yes, dont give them a DE at all.

Make it an actual kiosk, set the favourite bar up with streaming services and the book-keeping ui and just have it show the browser.

There are distros based entirely around that concept :P

http://porteus-kiosk.org/

I've heard that cinnamon is easier to theme than KDE would you agree?

Yes. Totally. I love KDE, but it has too many options. Someone used to Windows will faint before grasping the essentials. Go for Cinnamon, that has a very similar layout and workflow, and it's easy to theme.

Yes. Totally. I love KDE, but it has too many options. Someone used to Windows will faint before grasping the essentials. Go for Cinnamon, that has a very similar layout and workflow, and it's easy to theme.

https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013482/

Nice. Thank you for the quick help :)

Nice. Thank you for the quick help :)

(Porteus will really only work if everything is web-based however)

Is it @gigagloin ?

I guess if I wanted to I could base it around the bar homepage, streaming and an mpd web interface for the guys who want to use unavailable music

So far we've used web and a standalone music player though

For a Gnome user perspective, I know that it looks good. But it comes crashes as a free gift. But this one is a whole new level! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTXKqIb_2Q

Wogue is crazy xd

It's in a hobbyist bar and used mostly for music streaming and some bookkeeping. Usually one user per day but many different users. A kiosk user is planned but I have to decide on a DE that's close enough to Windows so the guys who cannot deal with anything unfamiliar can work with it.

I don't get it. Why it should be like Windows? Imho the biggest mistake is to disguise a linux as a windows. The user will think it is a windows and is confused, when nothing is as expected. Run an oldschool DE with a clear design and native to use - i don't like this DE, but i would choose MATE without any "eyecandy" stuff like this modern menu and compiz. Clear and simple - traditional ok

If a Windows theming is the answer, your question must be doubted

I don't get it. Why it should be like Windows? Imho the biggest mistake is to disguise a linux as a windows. The user will think it is a windows and is confused, when nothing is as expected. Run an oldschool DE with a clear design and native to use - i don't like this DE, but i would choose MATE without any "eyecandy" stuff like this modern menu and compiz. Clear and simple - traditional ok

it should feel familiar to make the switch easier, as it won't feel so foreign and strange. If it'd look completely the same, then yeah, it's a bad idea, but if it'd look familiar - windows have the same close/maximize/minimize buttons, there's a menu somewhere with apps and so on, then it's definitely a good thing

Which DE would you use for a PC that will be used by many users (20+) with Windows (and no other) background?

I think XFCE would be nice, it's imho a very traditional desktop environment

it should feel familiar to make the switch easier, as it won't feel so foreign and strange. If it'd look completely the same, then yeah, it's a bad idea, but if it'd look familiar - windows have the same close/maximize/minimize buttons, there's a menu somewhere with apps and so on, then it's definitely a good thing

This is imho a wrong approach

This is imho a wrong approach

When I have someone who only used Windows before I wouldn't give that person i3 + console and leave it as it is, I would give them kde, xfce or gnome which are familiar enough not to make them panic

The goal is a familiar environment. I've used XFCE, Gnome and openbox and imo they all are not that windows-ish. It depends. The system should in general handle like windows, i.e. use menus on the bottom left, have similar ways to open and close apps and so on.

The theming is some extra luxury because the bar has a medieval theme I wanted to look for a theme that might fit better than the standard theme, not for a windows clone.

The goal is a familiar environment. I've used XFCE, Gnome and openbox and imo they all are not that windows-ish. It depends. The system should in general handle like windows, i.e. use menus on the bottom left, have similar ways to open and close apps and so on.

you may also check out IceWM, it's a very old and very basic window manager with a menu on the bottom, which (at least for me) looks like a Win95 knockoff with good enough theming possibilities

you may also check out IceWM, it's a very old and very basic window manager with a menu on the bottom, which (at least for me) looks like a Win95 knockoff with good enough theming possibilities

Not comfortable enough

Not comfortable enough

just an option, if it's going to be used in a bar so just playing music and doing other stuff is expected - no installing new apps, changing system preferences and so on - then maybe it will be good enough? ;)

just an option, if it's going to be used in a bar so just playing music and doing other stuff is expected - no installing new apps, changing system preferences and so on - then maybe it will be good enough? ;)

Maybe. Maybe not