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Kohane
10.05.2018
21:00:33
SDDM is not KDE project.
But it's KDE's default, so....

Fadlun
10.05.2018
21:00:44
~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:00:49
lightweight ?

Google
Fadlun
10.05.2018
21:01:37
wut ?
KDE chooses SDDM as it's DM.

~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:02:52
lightweight ?
are you sure about this point , idr if it really was lightweight tbh

anyway I am not gonna crash my lil ubuntu

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:03:11
damn that looks cool

~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:03:37
damn that looks cool
what has attracted me is , its a native look

not themes or something like that

this is what i was waiting for , some work on both sides , the core and the UI

Kohane
10.05.2018
21:04:54
anyway I am not gonna crash my lil ubuntu
Well, this explains why you don't find it lightwight....

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:05:28
However, the same can be done with vagrant and ansible.
I'm going to use ansible to create new environments at work soon : D

Barrel
10.05.2018
21:05:55
Outside of that, not very useful

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:05:59
I like the fingerprint icon haha

Containers are cool for servlet and distributed stuff kek

Google
Tom
10.05.2018
21:06:40
I've started learning ansible

http://selinuxgame.org/

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:08:42
That's a cute doggo

~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:08:43
I like the fingerprint icon haha
https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/files/2018/05/lock-unlock.webm?_=1

the video

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:08:58
They're useful for a specific subset of tasks
But some treat them like the next generation of THE INTERNET EVERYTHING

~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:09:03
the animations are kinda nice

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:09:13
Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:09:38
But some treat them like the next generation of THE INTERNET EVERYTHING
That's always the thing with new tech and soyboys

Barrel
10.05.2018
21:09:40
But some treat them like the next generation of THE INTERNET EVERYTHING
For a lot of software they're just better versions of flatpaks tbh

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:10:07
ReWrItE tHe LiNuX kErNeL iN rUsT

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:10:24
For a lot of software they're just better versions of flatpaks tbh
Yeah but everything has its limits. And unless you know a crapton about them getting containers to the point where they are as sane and isolated as vms you could've used a vm.

Kaelyn
10.05.2018
21:10:48
Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:10:56
Barrel
10.05.2018
21:11:00
In a docker container
I need a Xorg container.

Kohane
10.05.2018
21:11:11
This is just so cute.... I don't know how it is related to Wouter's message though.#

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:11:29
Kohane
10.05.2018
21:11:40
Ah.

Like a croissant?

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Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:15:11
You know I learned about ansible because of another very enthousiast german ??

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:16:25
Like a croissant?
A really good croissant, of which i had none so far xD

Is it good?
really good.

Even as lazy sysmin you can use it to execute commands in parallel, like update 400 servers at the same time.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:17:03
I have to check integration with gitlab ci tho

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:17:20
Or, more sophisticated, manage config files and key deployment and and and across several hundred machines

Tom
10.05.2018
21:17:31
I've been playing with my raspberry pi stack and ansible

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:18:20
We're also planning on moving to hetzner.cloud for hosting

Giovanni
10.05.2018
21:18:29
Blur! Finally! ???

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:18:32
They have integration with ansible as well which is nice

~ obtex
10.05.2018
21:19:35
Blur! Finally! ???
yeah , generally some efforts on the UI

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:20:04
We're also planning on moving to hetzner.cloud for hosting
Nice. But keep in mind hetzner is really uneasy pretty quickly if you get lots of traffic.

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:23:12
Hmm? Tell me more?
If you get continually three to ten times the traffic hetzner will nullroute it and ask you kindly to take care of the problem.

To get proper ddos protection if you have high load or controversial content you might want to use cloudflare infront or ovh instead

MISY
10.05.2018
21:23:57
this gif is very funny ? so cute

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:24:24
Google
Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:24:34
Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:24:39
Yes

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:24:45
If you get ddosed with 3 they'll get uneasy.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:24:51
Oh okay

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:25:00
Any higher and they'll ask you to take care of the source or move on.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:25:01
Do they just block traffic for an hour?

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:25:11
Do they just block traffic for an hour?
They nullroute you and send you a mail.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:25:15
?

Is 3gbps ddos a lot?

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:25:41
So yeah, if you have ddos issues or lots of idiots hating you dont go hetzner

Is 3gbps ddos a lot?
Its laughable, thats three servers from someone else.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:25:58
We're hosting a Minecraft server so it's not like we're getting that much traffic

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:26:13
?

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:26:27
But a cranky skiddie you ban could take it down with just a few cheap vps-es of his own.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:26:28
If we get ddossed we might have another problem as well ?

What's the best way to deal with ddossing anyway?

Tom
10.05.2018
21:27:13
cloudflare

Google
Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:27:17
What's the best way to deal with ddossing anyway?
A hoster that comes with protection for it.

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:27:22
cloudflare
I don't like them

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:27:32
cloudflare
Only if you dont mind all your ssl being broken by them.

Tom
10.05.2018
21:27:44
vultr provides DDoS protection for an extra fee

I think it's about 6 USD a month

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:28:06
A hoster that comes with protection for it.
What does that protection do? Just block traffic from certain sources?

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:28:53
What does that protection do? Just block traffic from certain sources?
Firewalls trying to find out "typical" ddos traffic, blocking SYN flooding, blocking other crap...

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:29:01
Maybe hetzner will get that in the future

Tom
10.05.2018
21:29:27
There's some really cool tech for SYN flood prevention that I was reading about recently

Tom
10.05.2018
21:29:43
I suspect everyone in here already knows, but syn cookies are awesome

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:29:46
Enabled by default in every sane os

Tom
10.05.2018
21:30:03
I know that now, but reading about it recently was really interesting

Wouter ^-^ ?
10.05.2018
21:30:06
Nice thing is everything we're going to deploy on hetzner is going to be managed from ansible so moving to another host wouldn't be that much of an issue

SYN Cookies.
What does that do?

Minecraft doesn't use HTTP traffic so if there HTTP cookies they're of no use xd

Tom
10.05.2018
21:31:47
Basically it doesn't open a connection waiting for the return ACK from the host, it embeds a connection ID wich is logged in a table so memory isn't consumed holding open channels for hosts that aren't responding to the SYN-ACK

It's a layer 5 implementation so Minecraft can utilise it

Tobias?
10.05.2018
21:32:35
It's a layer 5 implementation so Minecraft can utilise it
Afaik its in the network stack so MC wouldnt need to worry about it.

Tom
10.05.2018
21:32:54
yeah, it's at layer 5 isn't it?

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