Well it's just a joke I mean the terminal you launch to execute commands Don't know why someone even need graphical package manager, CLI is good

Well, maybe my mother doesn't know how to install something via CLI

Well it's just a joke I mean the terminal you launch to execute commands Don't know why someone even need graphical package manager, CLI is good

Because ease

I bet it was just a pedantic comment

I dislike pedantic comments so much....

It's pretty easier to explain to my 50 y/o mother to open GNOME-Software or so, click on the search button and write what she's looking for. and she can keep her laptop updated without asking me every time to update her computer.

Well it's just a joke I mean the terminal you launch to execute commands Don't know why someone even need graphical package manager, CLI is good

Well, you don't need it but I do. I prefer to search stuff on a graphical programme like Synaptic or Dnfdragora. It's clearer for me

I'd package Deepin for fedora just for the app store

It's pretty easier to explain to my 50 y/o mother to open GNOME-Software or so, click on the search button and write what she's looking for. and she can keep her laptop updated without asking me every time to update her computer.

This. I was so happy to see upgrades being made possible with Software.

It's pretty easier to explain to my 50 y/o mother to open GNOME-Software or so, click on the search button and write what she's looking for. and she can keep her laptop updated without asking me every time to update her computer.

Without going to the extreme. I have a poor memory, and it's more visual than anything. So dnf update or dnf install is easy to remember but searching on a massive list of stuff to find what I want to install not to mention the hassle of writing all the programmes I want to install... that's not for me. I just search on a GUI, click on the items and wait until the system shows me how many dependencies and MBs it's going to need. And meantime I can do something else.

Okay, now I see, sorry

Without going to the extreme. I have a poor memory, and it's more visual than anything. So dnf update or dnf install is easy to remember but searching on a massive list of stuff to find what I want to install not to mention the hassle of writing all the programmes I want to install... that's not for me. I just search on a GUI, click on the items and wait until the system shows me how many dependencies and MBs it's going to need. And meantime I can do something else.

If it's Yumex you don't even need to wait ?

I don't like App stores because they hide too much. I want to know which are the dependencies and what is the size to download. But I don't want to type and go through long lists of stuff to get what I want. So a GUI it's handy from my point of view.

Ah, yes...

But Yumex is deprecated

Without going to the extreme. I have a poor memory, and it's more visual than anything. So dnf update or dnf install is easy to remember but searching on a massive list of stuff to find what I want to install not to mention the hassle of writing all the programmes I want to install... that's not for me. I just search on a GUI, click on the items and wait until the system shows me how many dependencies and MBs it's going to need. And meantime I can do something else.

well, my mom's laptop has 6GB of DDR3 (lucky her!)

Wait, why can't someone just pick up the Yumex slack?

well, my mom's laptop has 6GB of DDR3 (lucky her!)

No. I wasn't speaking of the laptop's memory, but mine. My memory inside my brain is rather poor and I remember better visuals than other things.

Wait, why can't someone just pick up the Yumex slack?

I think they decided to put it aside because it was a lot of rewriting when Fedora changed from Yum to Dnf so they thought it was better to start over.

I think they decided to put it aside because it was a lot of rewriting when Fedora changed from Yum to Dnf so they thought it was better to start over.

What's the start over called? I want it

What's the start over called? I want it

Dnfdragora.

But it's still... ah, unpolished?

I'd package Deepin for fedora just for the app store

That'd be noice! A copr, at least...

No. I wasn't speaking of the laptop's memory, but mine. My memory inside my brain is rather poor and I remember better visuals than other things.

oh, damn

That'd be noice! A copr, at least...

If only motivation worked like Popeye's cans of spinach

If only motivation worked like Popeye's cans of spinach

I'd love to test it out, for the record...

No. I wasn't speaking of the laptop's memory, but mine. My memory inside my brain is rather poor and I remember better visuals than other things.

Here I am too! I bet I have plain old 1MiB of internal memory made out of rusty neurons

I'd love to test it out, for the record...

I have very many ideas stewing in my head and no programming expertise. I'm (very slowly) learning C++

I have very many ideas stewing in my head and no programming expertise. I'm (very slowly) learning C++

+1, ideas but no knowledge of programming...

I'm currently trying very hard to design a widget for KDE Connect... Any ideas from anyone are welcome!

I'm currently trying very hard to design a widget for KDE Connect... Any ideas from anyone are welcome!

A widget for controlling music playback from the android home screen while connected to a computer.

KDE Connect is like Pushbullet right?

KDE Connect is like Pushbullet right?

Mm hmm

But open sauce, free freedom yadda yadda

kde connect is nice but... no bluetooth, no party

kde connect is nice but... no bluetooth, no party

what

you can't connect phone to pc using bluetooth

you can't connect phone to pc using bluetooth

Isn't that like, the distro's job?

nope, it's something kdeconnect is missing yet

it works only when pc and phone are connected to the same wifi network

nope, it's something kdeconnect is missing yet

Newest master releases are working on supporting that.

Isn't that like, the distro's job?

Nah, KDE C uses Wi-Fi, I think he wants Bluetooth support..

Ah.

Nah, KDE C uses Wi-Fi, I think he wants Bluetooth support..

I'd like

Nah, KDE C uses Wi-Fi, I think he wants Bluetooth support..

Too slow/energy hungry for most of the things it does i'd think.

Too slow/energy hungry for most of the things it does i'd think.

Bluetooth is, yeah...

Bluetooth is, yeah...

high latency for touch input, downright unusuable for file transfer...

Nods vigorously...

Isn't BT4 supposed to be speedy

Too slow/energy hungry for most of the things it does i'd think.

Doesnt it have an LE mode

Doesnt it have an LE mode

You can count the pcs/phones with support for it on 4 hands.

my bluetooth earbuds barely seem to consume power tho

compared to being connected to wifi

Plus, its just for "still here" - for actual data you likely want the hungrier mode.

isnt that LE

isnt that LE

Not really, bluetooth audio is just really well optimized. Cpu and bluetooth send packets, race to sleep, repeat.

hmm

Thats why audio buffers in BT are easily ~1-3 seconds

my bluetooth earbuds barely seem to consume power tho

But BT switched on sucks power outta your main device, doesn't it?

http://appset.altervista.org/joomla/en/screenshots

This looks interesting

But BT switched on sucks power outta your main device, doesn't it?

not by very much

But BT switched on sucks power outta your main device, doesn't it?

to be clear, my phone supports bluetooth le

no idea about my earbuds

to be clear, my phone supports bluetooth le

Again Audio over BLE is not even in the standard

that plus what tobias says about audio optimizations probably is the reason why i have pretty good battery life on bluetooth

ERROR: S client not available

Again Audio over BLE is not even in the standard

oh

Its part of the upcoming 5.0 Bluetooth update.

Which will require fully new hardware and software.

so bluetooth le is only for smartwatches and such?

And will still use nearly as much energy.

so bluetooth le is only for smartwatches and such?

Tiny data packets with long pauses inbetween, yes.

hmm

I dislike pedantic comments so much....

So do I

Tiny data packets with long pauses inbetween, yes.

Wb wireless speakers and headsets?

Wb wireless speakers and headsets?

Wb?

With audio you have: lots of data constantly active transmission constant two way connection for control signals. It'll use relatively much battery no matter what.

What 'bout... ?

With audio you have: lots of data constantly active transmission constant two way connection for control signals. It'll use relatively much battery no matter what.

Oic

The best we can do is simply transmit, pause, let buffer run down, refill buffer and sleep as much as possible inbetween

The best we can do is simply transmit, pause, let buffer run down, refill buffer and sleep as much as possible inbetween

Oawww

You can count the pcs/phones with support for it on 4 hands.

Four hands? Are Siva or something like that? How many arms do you have?

Four hands? Are Siva or something like that? How many arms do you have?

Two >:P

You can count the pcs/phones with support for it on 4 hands.

phones with support for Bluetooth LE? Isn't that generally available in most phones?

phones with support for Bluetooth LE? Isn't that generally available in most phones?

Lol no.

I always assumed that my Mii Band was using BLE for connectivity

I always assumed that my Mii Band was using BLE for connectivity

For wearables it's a must

For wearables it's a must

so... my phone must support it to connect to it? or I am missing something? ;)

Lol no.

Is there a way to find out? From the device itself? Not searching the web like a maniac.

so... my phone must support it to connect to it? or I am missing something? ;)

Not at all, mi bands support both.

Mostly because its required for the data heavy initial pairing.

Two >:P

And how do you have four hands?

Is there a way to find out? From the device itself? Not searching the web like a maniac.

Iirc you need a device with Bluetooth 4.1

And how do you have four hands?

"you can count it on 4 hands" = "its a rather small number - not <10 but assume it to be not much kinda" german saying i think

Not at all, mi bands support both.

that would explain it

Iirc you need a device with Bluetooth 4.1

BT and BT LE are not the same standard.

A widget for controlling music playback from the android home screen while connected to a computer.

Doesn't that already exist? I've been using it for years. Or do you mean an android widget for the in notification controls of KDE connect?

that would explain it

Which device do you have?